Create more space between the three main families (General)
GracieGirl, 11/29/2024, 6:37PM (8 days ago)- 4 people liked this
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
Create more space between the three main families
Joy, 11/30/2024, 2:53AM (7 days ago) @GracieGirl
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
With the biased writing of the show, I don't see it being on the air in the distant future. I used to have a group of friends that would discuss the show. At one time there was about 15 of us. Now it has dropped to 3 of us because the others got so fed up with the storylines that they stopped watching and don't even keep up with the show unless that hear one of us remaining 3 talking about it. Then they get a good laugh about how ridiculous the show has become. Steffy has a lot of fans, but there are also a lot of Logan fans. Reading other social media, it seems like the Logan fans are giving up on the show because of the biased writing.
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Lizzy54 , Austria, 11/30/2024, 4:11AM (7 days ago) @Joy
That's what I noticed too. It has become the Steffy Show, or the Forresters First Show...there's a lot of complaining by Logan likers but no one seems to listen.
I still think Hope will soon be gone or villanized completely. Then Brooke will not have any on screen children as Rick is gone, RJ marginalised (if he is even still on) and Bridget only coming for holidays or surgery.
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Joy, 11/30/2024, 5:19AM (7 days ago) @Lizzy54
That's what I noticed too. It has become the Steffy Show, or the Forresters First Show...there's a lot of complaining by Logan likers but no one seems to listen.
I still think Hope will soon be gone or villanized completely. Then Brooke will not have any on screen children as Rick is gone, RJ marginalised (if he is even still on) and Bridget only coming for holidays or surgery.
If Hope leaves, then Brooke will be the major punching bag. Katie may get a few licks handed to her, but Brooke will be the main one catching all of the punches while Ridge stands by and allows it to happen because he is scared of making Princess Steffy and his ex-wife mad.
Create more space between the three main families
Lizzy54 , Austria, 11/30/2024, 5:22AM (7 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this
Yes. Then Brooke will be their punching bag. Now it is Hope.
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GracieGirl, 11/30/2024, 8:01AM (7 days ago) @Lizzy54
Maybe that’s the plan . Forresters only.
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hopeyougogirl, 11/30/2024, 12:15PM (7 days ago) @GracieGirl
Maybe that’s the plan . Forresters only.
I doubt they will rid of the Logans because then the nasty faux Forresters will have no punching bag. The show only cares about making their fav pet happy..as she and her criminal family can do whatever evil/bullying they want without consequences, and the Logans can't fight back or come out on top..they only exist as the Tridge mafia's forever punching bag. It's so disgusting and disturbing imo.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
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GracieGirl, 11/30/2024, 7:59AM (7 days ago) @Joy
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
With the biased writing of the show, I don't see it being on the air in the distant future. I used to have a group of friends that would discuss the show. At one time there was about 15 of us. Now it has dropped to 3 of us because the others got so fed up with the storylines that they stopped watching and don't even keep up with the show unless that hear one of us remaining 3 talking about it. Then they get a good laugh about how ridiculous the show has become. Steffy has a lot of fans, but there are also a lot of Logan fans. Reading other social media, it seems like the Logan fans are giving up on the show because of the biased writing.
I used to discuss in a close circle of friends but no one talks about it at all. They lost interest.
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Barbybo, 11/30/2024, 10:34AM (7 days ago) @GracieGirl
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
With the biased writing of the show, I don't see it being on the air in the distant future. I used to have a group of friends that would discuss the show. At one time there was about 15 of us. Now it has dropped to 3 of us because the others got so fed up with the storylines that they stopped watching and don't even keep up with the show unless that hear one of us remaining 3 talking about it. Then they get a good laugh about how ridiculous the show has become. Steffy has a lot of fans, but there are also a lot of Logan fans. Reading other social media, it seems like the Logan fans are giving up on the show because of the biased writing.
I used to discuss in a close circle of friends but no one talks about it at all. They lost interest.
Like any show a lot stream now and soaps get repetitive like this one ya loose interest I guess..it’s on after y and r so I guess a lot leave it on for the next half hour..rewashing past couples gets really stale, bad sets and yapping over and over thank goodness ff buttons
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Drangonfly , 11/30/2024, 10:58AM (7 days ago) @GracieGirl
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
They would need to blow up the cast and bring in new people in order for this to happen. These characters need other characters to interact with. There is no story if the Logans and Forresters and Spencers don't interact.
To me, the problem with the show lately is the erasure of history. We're supposed to believe that Brooke cheated on Ridge with all his family members and that it was Hope that came between Liam and Steffy. They probably expect us to forget that Steffy even went after Bill when he was married to Katie, who had a heart condition.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
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GracieGirl, 11/30/2024, 11:30PM (7 days ago) @Drangonfly
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
They would need to blow up the cast and bring in new people in order for this to happen. These characters need other characters to interact with. There is no story if the Logans and Forresters and Spencers don't interact.To me, the problem with the show lately is the erasure of history. We're supposed to believe that Brooke cheated on Ridge with all his family members and that it was Hope that came between Liam and Steffy. They probably expect us to forget that Steffy even went after Bill when he was married to Katie, who had a heart condition.
Why can’t they interact with other people. The show needs new characters. It needs new blood. Hope v Steffy cannot carry the show. It’s bringing it down. If that’s all there it is, I guess it is over.
Create more space between the three main families
Barbybo, 12/1/2024, 8:27PM (6 days ago) @GracieGirl
No matter who is involved, to me, what it boils down to is that Hope and Steffy are fighting about Ridge and Liam. The show is too narrowly focused. I now realize that Steffy will always win. There will be no comeuppance no matter what she does. I was just talking about the show writing Stephanie setting up Brooke for rape and at the end of the day, there was no real payback for Stephanie. So nothing will happen to Steffy. It’s wishful thinking for me to believe that. People like the Forresters and yes the Spencers will always get away with killing or causing the death of others or even slipping into people beds without permission but everyone else is ripped to shreds over adultery or even a kiss. The Forresters and Spencers are a different breed. They are in the same Beverly Hills society. They have the police in their hip pocket. They can and will get away with everything including their own hypocrisy. When Steffy asked Katie about how she would feel if another woman threw herself at her husband and the show didn’t write Katie a comeback line, it was then I realize, there is no comeuppance for people like Steffy. This show is about the Steffy’s of this world and her grandmother before her. Everyone else is just collateral. Beth Logan as matriarch had a much higher standard for her kids. I’m not sure if they realize she had more character than any Forrester or Spencer could ever hope to have. I wish the show would write the Logan women coming to this realization and separate themselves from these people. I don’t know what that means for Donna, but I would like to see a permanent split between these families and only interact when necessary. I think the show needs more variety and not the same old people fighting about same things. I still think the show has potential if the people in charge could see the merits of creating more stories that separate these three main families. I think it would benefit from Hope and Steffy never interacting and Brooke dumping Ridge with no Bill in sight.
They would need to blow up the cast and bring in new people in order for this to happen. These characters need other characters to interact with. There is no story if the Logans and Forresters and Spencers don't interact.To me, the problem with the show lately is the erasure of history. We're supposed to believe that Brooke cheated on Ridge with all his family members and that it was Hope that came between Liam and Steffy. They probably expect us to forget that Steffy even went after Bill when he was married to Katie, who had a heart condition.
Why can’t they interact with other people. The show needs new characters. It needs new blood. Hope v Steffy cannot carry the show. It’s bringing it down. If that’s all there it is, I guess it is over.
Well they hired Electra and Will..there new…and that Renny guy
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