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So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that? (General)

Tiqui1999 @, 11/20/2023, 7:35PM (188 days ago)

What is going on with this show? Seriously. At the beginning of the year, we were told how important HFTF was to Hope and how important it was to Forrester. It was bleeding numbers because Eric and Zende were pulled off Couture to design it.

Thomas came back, turned it into a sensation, and they all had the time of their lives in Rome. Did the Baby and Johnny "And I owe it all to you" dance and everything.

Then Hope was all about changing the image, and Thomas was still designing. Hope was even the "It" girl or whatever. Now suddenly, all that is just gone? Stopped?

Zende said today that they weren't "posting" to the line anymore -- whatever that means. I don't get it. All that hype about keeping HFTF afloat earlier this year and now it's just dead in the water?

Of course, this is what I want. I'm sick of HFTF, but make it make sense because Zende and Eric, according to HFTF's storyline earlier this year, worked together on not only HFTF, but also Couture! Now Zende is back on HFTF again?

I'm confused.

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

ReturnedBBFan, 11/20/2023, 7:50PM (188 days ago) @Tiqui1999

:neutral..

I said in another post **make it make sense**

I thought FC was swimming in the dough from the HFTF revenue? So is Thomas/Zende/Hope benched, will they just hang around and twiddle their thumbs or will Thomas/Zende be repurposed to junior designers under Eric/RJ.

They pull it for a line that didn't win the competition and probably will have dresses the average person can't afford. It seems like all the other lines are on hold for Eric's line. Also which fashion house only has ONE line going at a time? If Eric's line is so expensive (dripping in diamonds and all that) shouldn't someone speak to him gently about making sure the company stays afloat.

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So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/20/2023, 7:55PM (188 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

:neutral..

I said in another post **make it make sense**

I thought FC was swimming in the dough from the HFTF revenue? So is Thomas/Zende/Hope benched, will they just hang around and twiddle their thumbs or will Thomas/Zende be repurposed to junior designers under Eric/RJ.

They pull it for a line that didn't win the competition and probably will have dresses the average person can't afford. It seems like all the other lines are on hold for Eric's line. Also which fashion house only has ONE line going at a time? If Eric's line is so expensive (dripping in diamonds and all that) shouldn't someone speak to him gently about making sure the company stays afloat.

Yes, I have all these questions also. But you know what Hope and Thomas will be twiddling.

That aside, I didn't Ridge say at the beginning of this competition that the bedroom line was still in play? What happened to the Men's Line? I thought it was, too. And Cruise Wear?

What do the folks at International even work on?

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

ReturnedBBFan, 11/20/2023, 8:02PM (188 days ago) @Tiqui1999

:neutral..

I said in another post **make it make sense**

I thought FC was swimming in the dough from the HFTF revenue? So is Thomas/Zende/Hope benched, will they just hang around and twiddle their thumbs or will Thomas/Zende be repurposed to junior designers under Eric/RJ.

They pull it for a line that didn't win the competition and probably will have dresses the average person can't afford. It seems like all the other lines are on hold for Eric's line. Also which fashion house only has ONE line going at a time? If Eric's line is so expensive (dripping in diamonds and all that) shouldn't someone speak to him gently about making sure the company stays afloat.


Yes, I have all these questions also. But you know what Hope and Thomas will be twiddling.

That aside, I didn't Ridge say at the beginning of this competition that the bedroom line was still in play? What happened to the Men's Line? I thought it was, too. And Cruise Wear?

What do the folks at International even work on?

:rofl at the bolded - let them twiddle away, Thomas hasn't had sex in years so he has a lot to make up for..

I don't watch all the time but I don't recall any mention of the men's line in a long time. Brooke's bedroom made them a lot of money so it makes sense to keep it. I always assumed they also had other more minor lines and designers, FC is an international company, they can't only have 4 designers (Thomas/Zende/Ridge/Eric) and now RJ.

International only pops up as a plot point.

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So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 11/21/2023, 1:14AM (188 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

When Eric and Zende worked for HFTF it flopped. Tom had to return to save it and it made a lot of money, like Carter confirmed.
Also the Bedroom Line made them a lot of money.
But now Eric's couture line lost the competition, Ridge won and it was not even tight. Eric's designs lost money when working with Zende and now with RJ.
Looks like Eric is the problem? Will Ridge now sacrifice the company so Eric will think he still has it, that he won? Will they now produce Eric's couture line only, studded with diamonds?

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Sammy @, 11/21/2023, 1:17AM (188 days ago) @Lizzy54

When Eric and Zende worked for HFTF it flopped. Tom had to return to save it and it made a lot of money, like Carter confirmed.
Also the Bedroom Line made them a lot of money.
But now Eric's couture line lost the competition, Ridge won and it was not even tight. Eric's designs lost money when working with Zende and now with RJ.
Looks like Eric is the problem? Will Ridge now sacrifice the company so Eric will think he still has it, that he won? Will they now produce Eric's couture line only, studded with diamonds?

They pulled HFTF so both Eric and Ridge could work on their lines. They never said it was for good with HFTF. They will come back to it. The line was successful and made money unlike Eric’s line

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

ReturnedBBFan, 11/21/2023, 8:48PM (187 days ago) @Lizzy54

I’m still wondering if they’re going to end up tanking FC with Eric’s line since they’re putting the budget that way.

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So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/21/2023, 8:59PM (187 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I’m still wondering if they’re going to end up tanking FC with Eric’s line since they’re putting the budget that way.

It just doesn't make sense to me. And what about Eric wanting to go to the office and design even MORE?

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Sammy @, 11/21/2023, 12:45AM (188 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

:neutral..

I said in another post **make it make sense**

I thought FC was swimming in the dough from the HFTF revenue? So is Thomas/Zende/Hope benched, will they just hang around and twiddle their thumbs or will Thomas/Zende be repurposed to junior designers under Eric/RJ.

They pull it for a line that didn't win the competition and probably will have dresses the average person can't afford. It seems like all the other lines are on hold for Eric's line. Also which fashion house only has ONE line going at a time? If Eric's line is so expensive (dripping in diamonds and all that) shouldn't someone speak to him gently about making sure the company stays afloat.

Ridge said it today the other lines are currently being pulled because of Eric and Ridge’s lines. Nothing was indicated, except by Zenda that HFTF was been pulled and nothing indicated it was discontinued for good. Just while Eric and Ridge did their thing. I think too big of a deal is being made just because it’s Hope and Thomas. Nothing was said the line was pulled for good

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

BBDownunder, 11/20/2023, 8:34PM (188 days ago) @Tiqui1999

What is going on with this show? Seriously. At the beginning of the year, we were told how important HFTF was to Hope and how important it was to Forrester. It was bleeding numbers because Eric and Zende were pulled off Couture to design it.

Thomas came back, turned it into a sensation, and they all had the time of their lives in Rome. Did the Baby and Johnny "And I owe it all to you" dance and everything.

Then Hope was all about changing the image, and Thomas was still designing. Hope was even the "It" girl or whatever. Now suddenly, all that is just gone? Stopped?

Zende said today that they weren't "posting" to the line anymore -- whatever that means. I don't get it. All that hype about keeping HFTF afloat earlier this year and now it's just dead in the water?

Of course, this is what I want. I'm sick of HFTF, but make it make sense because Zende and Eric, according to HFTF's storyline earlier this year, worked together on not only HFTF, but also Couture! Now Zende is back on HFTF again?

I'm confused.

maybe eric is making some Bold decisions

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

viennagirl @, 11/21/2023, 3:26AM (188 days ago) @Tiqui1999

What is going on with this show? Seriously. At the beginning of the year, we were told how important HFTF was to Hope and how important it was to Forrester. It was bleeding numbers because Eric and Zende were pulled off Couture to design it.

Thomas came back, turned it into a sensation, and they all had the time of their lives in Rome. Did the Baby and Johnny "And I owe it all to you" dance and everything.

Then Hope was all about changing the image, and Thomas was still designing. Hope was even the "It" girl or whatever. Now suddenly, all that is just gone? Stopped?

Zende said today that they weren't "posting" to the line anymore -- whatever that means. I don't get it. All that hype about keeping HFTF afloat earlier this year and now it's just dead in the water?

Of course, this is what I want. I'm sick of HFTF, but make it make sense because Zende and Eric, according to HFTF's storyline earlier this year, worked together on not only HFTF, but also Couture! Now Zende is back on HFTF again?

I'm confused.

I get your confusion, but in the past they have already put a line on the back burner because of money issues:

eg. 2018, when HFTF had to be benched because glamour, Steffy's line and Hope's were too expensive for FC, no budget for all three of them.


But yes, it is weird that they can have all lines kinda doing well and still they put one successful line on the back burner.

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Barbybo, 11/21/2023, 5:42AM (187 days ago) @Tiqui1999

What is going on with this show? Seriously. At the beginning of the year, we were told how important HFTF was to Hope and how important it was to Forrester. It was bleeding numbers because Eric and Zende were pulled off Couture to design it.

Thomas came back, turned it into a sensation, and they all had the time of their lives in Rome. Did the Baby and Johnny "And I owe it all to you" dance and everything.

Then Hope was all about changing the image, and Thomas was still designing. Hope was even the "It" girl or whatever. Now suddenly, all that is just gone? Stopped?

Zende said today that they weren't "posting" to the line anymore -- whatever that means. I don't get it. All that hype about keeping HFTF afloat earlier this year and now it's just dead in the water?

Of course, this is what I want. I'm sick of HFTF, but make it make sense because Zende and Eric, according to HFTF's storyline earlier this year, worked together on not only HFTF, but also Couture! Now Zende is back on HFTF again?

I'm confused.

I guess designing for the younger generation is out and now we have two senior designer doing gowns ..new vision or back to the olden days …..why they would drop the youthful line is dumb….as far as zende I think he may get little airtime then go back in closet too bad waste of the guy I loved him telling ridge off…;-). I think it’s to bring Hope and Tom closer fighting for the line

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

GLFan, 11/21/2023, 6:13AM (187 days ago) @Tiqui1999
edited by unknown, 11/21/2023, 6:31AM

What is going on with this show? Seriously. At the beginning of the year, we were told how important HFTF was to Hope and how important it was to Forrester. It was bleeding numbers because Eric and Zende were pulled off Couture to design it.

Thomas came back, turned it into a sensation, and they all had the time of their lives in Rome. Did the Baby and Johnny "And I owe it all to you" dance and everything.

Then Hope was all about changing the image, and Thomas was still designing. Hope was even the "It" girl or whatever. Now suddenly, all that is just gone? Stopped?

Zende said today that they weren't "posting" to the line anymore -- whatever that means. I don't get it. All that hype about keeping HFTF afloat earlier this year and now it's just dead in the water?

Of course, this is what I want. I'm sick of HFTF, but make it make sense because Zende and Eric, according to HFTF's storyline earlier this year, worked together on not only HFTF, but also Couture! Now Zende is back on HFTF again?

I'm confused.

Probably half of the problems on the show in recent memory have been caused or exacerbated by Ridge’s failure to communicate, going back to not telling Brooke he was leaving her over the CPS call. The silly fashion showdown essentially happened because Ridge didn’t communicate with Eric when Eric expressed a desire to work with him on one last line. Ridge just blew Eric off. Yesterday we had Ridge royally messing things up with Zende because he didn’t tell him (like he told the other grandchildren) that Eric is dying. Now the plug is pulled on HFTF. Did he even tell Eric that? Does Eric seriously know that HFTF will be ended or suspended so the company can afford to produce his line? Would he want that for the next generation of designers or for FC itself, or is Ridge not even telling Eric what he’s doing?

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So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 11/21/2023, 6:45AM (187 days ago) @GLFan

Seems he is telling Eric nothing aside from his (white) lie that Eric won the competition.
Now they will have to produce Eric´s gowns though they lost the competition and lose money instead of producing Ridge´s line...
But wouldn´t Eric, as he is CEO now, find out which line is actually produced and how much (or how little) money it makes?
Wouldn´t he be surprised that his line, though he won, doesn´t sell?
I suppose Eric will soon find out about Ridge´s lie...they won´t let him die (IF he really dies) still believing it?

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

GLFan, 11/21/2023, 7:35AM (187 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

Seems he is telling Eric nothing aside from his (white) lie that Eric won the competition.
Now they will have to produce Eric´s gowns though they lost the competition and lose money instead of producing Ridge´s line...
But wouldn´t Eric, as he is CEO now, find out which line is actually produced and how much (or how little) money it makes?
Wouldn´t he be surprised that his line, though he won, doesn´t sell?
I suppose Eric will soon find out about Ridge´s lie...they won´t let him die (IF he really dies) still believing it?

So far they’ve shown us Eric gloating and boasting like an old fool, going on about his office and his company, but we haven’t seen him getting involved in day to day operations or anything financial. I imagine it won’t be pretty if and when he does that or otherwise finds out the truth about all this.

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Barbybo, 11/21/2023, 1:44PM (187 days ago) @GLFan

Seems he is telling Eric nothing aside from his (white) lie that Eric won the competition.
Now they will have to produce Eric´s gowns though they lost the competition and lose money instead of producing Ridge´s line...
But wouldn´t Eric, as he is CEO now, find out which line is actually produced and how much (or how little) money it makes?
Wouldn´t he be surprised that his line, though he won, doesn´t sell?
I suppose Eric will soon find out about Ridge´s lie...they won´t let him die (IF he really dies) still believing it?


So far they’ve shown us Eric gloating and boasting like an old fool, going on about his office and his company, but we haven’t seen him getting involved in day to day operations or anything financial. I imagine it won’t be pretty if and when he does that or otherwise finds out the truth about all this.

He will be home spitting up blood I don’t think much financials on his schedule

So the plug gets pulled on HFTF just like that?

Barbybo, 11/21/2023, 7:36AM (187 days ago) @Lizzy54

Seems he is telling Eric nothing aside from his (white) lie that Eric won the competition.
Now they will have to produce Eric´s gowns though they lost the competition and lose money instead of producing Ridge´s line...
But wouldn´t Eric, as he is CEO now, find out which line is actually produced and how much (or how little) money it makes?
Wouldn´t he be surprised that his line, though he won, doesn´t sell?
I suppose Eric will soon find out about Ridge´s lie...they won´t let him die (IF he really dies) still believing it?

Eric has a health problem after win gets old news he will probably be at home with health issues…does anyone really think he’s dyeing

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