Phoebe (General)

Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 2:35PM (397 days ago)

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show

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Dreamgirl, 3/18/2023, 2:57PM (397 days ago) @Sammy

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show

He also made Steffy and Phoebe fraternal twins after they had been identical twins in their childhood. That didn’t make sense to me either.

And even if the did kill her off they could have resurrected her. Goodness knows her mother could write a book on resurrection from death! So why not Phoebe?

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 3:46PM (397 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


He also made Steffy and Phoebe fraternal twins after they had been identical twins in their childhood. That didn’t make sense to me either.

And even if the did kill her off they could have resurrected her. Goodness knows her mother could write a book on resurrection from death! So why not Phoebe?

I forgot they were identical twins first. Crazy

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Chapchick @, 3/18/2023, 2:58PM (397 days ago) @Sammy

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show

Karma for the way she played Harry and Shane off against each other

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/18/2023, 5:03PM (397 days ago) @Sammy

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show

That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.

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BBDownunder, 3/18/2023, 5:07PM (397 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.

nothing good comes from associating with Rick :-P

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 7:14PM (397 days ago) @BBDownunder

Rick was a good one. Interesting to watch. He took nothing off Ridge and let Ridge know he was truly Eric’s son. Unlike Thorne, Rick took nothing from Ridge. They should bring Rick back

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/18/2023, 7:17PM (397 days ago) @BBDownunder

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


nothing good comes from associating with Rick :-P

Looks like nothing good came from driving Phoebe home.

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 8:35PM (397 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Looks like nothing good came from driving Phoebe home.

True. I like Rick and Phoebe together. They made a cute couple. I liked when they sang together. I wished they had just left them along for awhile longer

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Kammie @, 3/18/2023, 5:30PM (397 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Bless her little heart.... I really do not blame Rick at all. Phoebe was too immature for Rick. She played virginal games and she expected him to be longing for her after she dumped him and to be waiting for her to return She would still be alive if her mommy hadn't slept with the man she was in love with. That buried rage inside her just came bubbling up. We all know that Taylor wanted that relationship because it served her purpose to tick off Brooke. She paid the price by losing her daughter. Sure Rick kissed Steffy, but he had moved on. Kinda like another girl who was sacrificed because of Taylor and Steffy. I see a lot of similarities between Phoebe and Ally's deaths.

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 7:11PM (397 days ago) @Kammie

Bless her little heart.... I really do not blame Rick at all. Phoebe was too immature for Rick. She played virginal games and she expected him to be longing for her after she dumped him and to be waiting for her to return She would still be alive if her mommy hadn't slept with the man she was in love with. That buried rage inside her just came bubbling up. We all know that Taylor wanted that relationship because it served her purpose to tick off Brooke. She paid the price by losing her daughter. Sure Rick kissed Steffy, but he had moved on. Kinda like another girl who was sacrificed because of Taylor and Steffy. I see a lot of similarities between Phoebe and Ally's deaths.

Great post! Exactly the truth

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 7:09PM (397 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.

Exactly

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Vik., 3/18/2023, 7:19PM (397 days ago) @Tiqui1999- 3 people liked this[O]

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.

Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/18/2023, 7:20PM (397 days ago) @Vik.- one person liked this

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

I don't think Rick and Phoebe were together then, but even if they were, you don't beat your driver until your wreck. That's 100% on Phoebe. She gets no pass for being unable to control herself no matter what Rick did. It her HER FAULT for beating on her driver. He shouldn't have started the car, in your view, but he did. She should have stopped acting like an animal.

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Joy, 3/18/2023, 8:11PM (397 days ago) @Vik.- 2 people liked this

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

Phoebe should have never jumped in Rick's car uninvited. Phoebe should have never grabbed the steering wheel, put her foot on the gas pedal and mash it to the floor. If Rick would have also been killed, it would have been Phoebe's fault. You don't just jump into someone's car and go nuts.

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 8:30PM (397 days ago) @Vik.- 2 people liked this

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

Rick never cheated on Phoebe with Steffy. Not at all
Phoebe left on tour Phoebe wasn’t sure what she wanted. Rick and Taylor had gotten together the whole time Phoebe was gone. Phoebe found out when she got back. For once, Steffy had nothing to do with it.
Taylor told a story about her and Rick that wasn’t even true. Like Rick used her when all along it was Taylor’s plan to get Ridge back. Taylor used Rick to get to Brooke. Phoebe had no right to jump in the car and start beating on Rick and grabbing the steering wheel
Not sure what Rick lied about. Phoebe grabbed the wheel and caused the accident. Rick went straight to Ridge and Brooke and told what happened
As far as Steffy and Rick, no one cheated anyone. They were together for a short time and Thomas tried to kill Rick twice. Rick and Steffy just fizzled out

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Dreamgirl, 3/18/2023, 8:43PM (397 days ago) @Vik.- 3 people liked this[O]

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

Rick didn’t cheat on Phoebe with Steffy. Phoebe left on tour and broke up with Rick but expected him to still wait for her. Rick moved on with Taylor and Phoebe found out and was heartbroken. She said she gave the couple her blessing but as shown in this clip, she was still very much hurt about it. After Rick and Taylor broke up he kissed Steffy (I don’t recall the exact circumstances of that) and Steffy blabbed to Phoebe about it. That was the final straw for Phoebe and she lost her mind. I think the person to blame most was Taylor. Being a psychiatrist she should first of all have never gotten involved with Rick, and secondly she should have seen, as a mother and doctor, how hurt Phoebe was even though she said she was ok with it. But as usual selfish Taylor saw nothing beyond an opportunity to get back at Brooke, and it cost her her daughter.

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Kammie @, 3/18/2023, 9:35PM (397 days ago) @Vik.- 2 people liked this

No he did not cheat on her.... She dumped him so she could run around Europe with Constantine when she decided that her career was more important... She decided when she returned she wanted him back and expected a grown man to sit around waiting and longing for her return... She was too immature for Rick... Now when she came home she found her mother and Rick rolling around in a bed about to have sex.... Of course Taylor was using Rick to get back at Brooke and she knew that Phoebe was expecting to get Rick back.... Phoebe took her rage out on the wrong person. Rick and Steffy were free agents and Phoebe flew into a jealous rage because she lost him to her mother and sister. Taylors revenge and lack of control over her libido directly resulted in Phoebe's death.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2023, 8:33AM (396 days ago) @Vik.- 2 people liked this

Over the years Phoebe has crossed my mind. I did like Phoebe. She seem to be Taylor and Ridge’s only child that was actually a good person. Why did the need to kill her off? She was the only decent one.
It wasn’t Rick. He wasn’t the reason. Taylor was just as involved with Rick as Rick was Taylor. Phoebe was Taylor’s daughter. Taylor had the bigger responsibility not to get involved with Rick
Regardless, what was the point in killing her off. I really just didn’t see the need. I think it would have been better to keep Phoebe. She was the only one that didn’t have a vendetta with the Logans. She loved Brooke
Bell just can’t have some normalcy on the show


That accident was 100% Phoebe's fault. Rick told her several times to stop because he was trying to drive. She had a death wish and it came true.


Rick cheated on her with Steffy, she had every rights to be upset. Rick had opportunities to stop the car. Shouldn't even have started the car to begin with. He also lied about what happened days after the accident. He bears more responsibility than Phoebe in my opinion.

Rick and Phoebe were not together, so Rick did NOT cheat on her. In fact, Taylor had already banged Rick by that time, so unless you think Taylor and Rick banged and got engaged while Rick was also dating Phoebe, this is totally inaccurate.

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GracieGirl, 3/18/2023, 9:55PM (397 days ago) @Sammy

I have been thinking it was decided that the best of the Forresters are boring. Ridges siblings are better people than he is and Phoebe was a better character than Tom or Steffy.

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Sammy @, 3/18/2023, 10:09PM (397 days ago) @GracieGirl

I have been thinking it was decided that the best of the Forresters are boring. Ridges siblings are better people than he is and Phoebe was a better character than Tom or Steffy.

Yep. The best Forresters excluded Ridge and his brats. I loved the rest of them

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Kammie @, 3/19/2023, 9:17AM (396 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this

Must be that tainted Douglas/Marone/Hamilton DNA. Even the worst Logan-Forrester is better than that tainted gene pool.

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Foreverbeauty, 3/19/2023, 6:31AM (397 days ago) @Sammy- one person liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 3/19/2023, 6:39AM (396 days ago) @Foreverbeauty- 2 people liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.

Rick wanted to drive off, without Phoebe. Why shouldn't he put on his seatbelt? Phoebe jumped in the car when he already drove off, she tried to take the wheel from him, while the car was still moving fast, Rick was not able to stop her or the car. I liked Phoebe but, sorry, it is mostly she who is to blame for this accident.
A smart person wouldn't try to take over the wheel in a fast moving car.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2023, 8:30AM (396 days ago) @Foreverbeauty- 2 people liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.

Phoebe was no victim, plain and simple. Phoebe is to blame 100 percent.

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Kammie @, 3/19/2023, 9:38AM (396 days ago) @Foreverbeauty- 3 people liked this[O]

:lol :rofl :lol :rofl A smart person wouldn't have jumped in a moving car and physically attack the driver. That crazy chick blocked his view when she hopped on top of him, scratched and slapped him, blocked his access to the brake pedal with her leg, she punched the gas, and would not allow him to control the car.

Phoebe was NO victim and she sure wasn't Rick's victim. She was the perpetrator and she was 100% responsible for her own death. Phoebe played virginal games with Rick, dumped him while she ran around Europe with Constantine, she was too immature for Rick, and she expected him to stay home waiting for her to return.... She needed to take her anger out on her mother. Her mother betrayed her when she knew Phoebe's feelings and expectations.

I understand why she was hurt, she was young and had unrealistic expectations when it came to grown up relationships. She confided in her mother and her mother knew that she expected to get back with Rick and then found her mother rolling around in bed with Rick. She was forced to swallow her feelings and went along with what her mother wanted. Poor Phoebe couldn't take her anger out on her mother, because she was too afraid she would disappear from her life. So she put her misplaced anger out on Rick.

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Sammy @, 3/19/2023, 11:34AM (396 days ago) @Foreverbeauty

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.

No even a little!!!!

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Dreamgirl, 3/19/2023, 11:39AM (396 days ago) @Foreverbeauty- 2 people liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.

Rick had no way of knowing Phoebe would become a madwoman in the car. She wanted to talk and he obviously thought that's all they would do. If he hadn't let her in the car he would have been accused of being a coward who was avoiding his ex because he didn't want to face the awkwardness between them.

I do not blame Phoebe though. You are right that she was a victim. The person to blame was 100% Taylor who as a psychiatrist and mother should have known that her relationship with Phoebe's first love would destroy Phoebe, no matter what she said. And as seen from the clip Phoebe was still very much hurt about Taylor and Rick. And the irony is that Taylor didn't even love Rick. She was only using him to get under Brookes skin. She even told Brooke she would leave Rick if Brooke gave her Ridge. She has always been such a pathetic disgusting woman and a horrible mother.

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Sammy @, 3/19/2023, 11:58AM (396 days ago) @Dreamgirl- 2 people liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.


Rick had no way of knowing Phoebe would become a madwoman in the car. She wanted to talk and he obviously thought that's all they would do. If he hadn't let her in the car he would have been accused of being a coward who was avoiding his ex because he didn't want to face the awkwardness between them.

I do not blame Phoebe though. You are right that she was a victim. The person to blame was 100% Taylor who as a psychiatrist and mother should have known that her relationship with Phoebe's first love would destroy Phoebe, no matter what she said. And as seen from the clip Phoebe was still very much hurt about Taylor and Rick. And the irony is that Taylor didn't even love Rick. She was only using him to get under Brookes skin. She even told Brooke she would leave Rick if Brooke gave her Ridge. She has always been such a pathetic disgusting woman and a horrible mother.

I forgot the part Taylor said she would leave Rick for Ridge. Another way that shows her to be a horrible mother. The whole idea that she knew how a young Phoebe loved Rick and Taylor used it as a game. Taylor is the one with blood on her hands.

Brooke brushed off Thomas when he so called loved Brooke.

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Dreamgirl, 3/19/2023, 12:05PM (396 days ago) @Sammy- one person liked this

Actually Phoebe only wanted to confront Rick about his relationship with her mom at Forrester creations.

Phoebe had told her mom and sister beforehand that she wanted to have ice cream with them after Brooke and Ridge’s rehearsal dinner.

However, I disagree with some of the replies in this post. Rick knew Phoebe was upset that night, he chose to go in the car anyway. put on his seatbelt and started it up. A smart person wouldn’t have done that.

Phoebe was the victim plain and simple. Rick is to blame 100 precent.


Rick had no way of knowing Phoebe would become a madwoman in the car. She wanted to talk and he obviously thought that's all they would do. If he hadn't let her in the car he would have been accused of being a coward who was avoiding his ex because he didn't want to face the awkwardness between them.

I do not blame Phoebe though. You are right that she was a victim. The person to blame was 100% Taylor who as a psychiatrist and mother should have known that her relationship with Phoebe's first love would destroy Phoebe, no matter what she said. And as seen from the clip Phoebe was still very much hurt about Taylor and Rick. And the irony is that Taylor didn't even love Rick. She was only using him to get under Brookes skin. She even told Brooke she would leave Rick if Brooke gave her Ridge. She has always been such a pathetic disgusting woman and a horrible mother.


I forgot the part Taylor said she would leave Rick for Ridge. Another way that shows her to be a horrible mother. The whole idea that she knew how a young Phoebe loved Rick and Taylor used it as a game. Taylor is the one with blood on her hands.

Brooke brushed off Thomas when he so called loved Brooke.

Not to mention Brooke is still crucified for Deacon even though she and Bridget got over it long ago. Bridget is happy, well adjusted and has a successful career and loves her mum. But Phoebe is dead because of Taylor and Rick and yet excuses are made for her that Phoebe gave them her blessing. What mother (and psychiatrist) would not be able to tell how hurt her daughter was and that she was just giving her blessing because she thought he made her mum happy? But as usual Taylor saw nothing beyond her selfish motives.

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Sammy @, 3/19/2023, 12:21PM (396 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

Brooke is crucified over every thing. What about Taylor killing a young Ally’s mother and making Phoebe lie until she went nuts.
Popping Ridge with pills and letting him drink until he was out of his mind. Taylor than raped him. He didn’t even remember. In the real world that is rape.
Taylor is evil

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Dreamgirl, 3/19/2023, 12:27PM (396 days ago) @Sammy- one person liked this

Brooke is crucified over every thing. What about Taylor killing a young Ally’s mother and making Phoebe lie until she went nuts.
Popping Ridge with pills and letting him drink until he was out of his mind. Taylor than raped him. He didn’t even remember. In the real world that is rape.
Taylor is evil

She really is. And a coward. But pretends to be a saint.

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Phoebe

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 3/19/2023, 12:23PM (396 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

Yes...she actually suggested to Brooke to swap Rick and Ridge...as if the two men were just objects.
Give me Ridge and I´ll return your son to you...:drunk

Phoebe

Sammy @, 3/19/2023, 12:49PM (396 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

Yes...she actually suggested to Brooke to swap Rick and Ridge...as if the two men were just objects.
Give me Ridge and I´ll return your son to you...:drunk

And they try to write Taylor as a saint.

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