How will the show handle the adoption aspect of this story? - The World of the Bold & the Beautiful Fan Forum

I think most everyone would agree that adoptive parents are the same as bio parents in every way except for the DNA factor, right?

So, what is the justification for Thomas to have Douglas move out of the house he lives in with his mother? I don't necessarily think it will come down to a custody fight. Most likely Douglas's feelings will be part of the decision. Maybe he'll say he wants to live with his dad and they'll all agree that's what's best.

But, what would happen if, when she's the age Douglas is now, Kelly says she wants to live with her father. What if Liam said he wanted her to move in with him? Would Steffy be granted more leverage than Hope is now, because she's Kelly's bio mother?

Of course, the show could always just simply ignore the fact that Hope actually adopted Douglas. They rewrite stuff all the time. But, if they WERE going to write it true to the history, how would they handle this?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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There are a lot of people in the world who Believe DNA is more important than love or the actual raising of a child. Look at how many times in the real world people refer to an entertainer‘s child as their adoptive child. Why is that necessary when legally that’s their son or daughter. I think about Brad and Angelina and their children. Look at how the media makes the distinction between their adoptive children and the birth children. Yet they say there’s truly no difference. Sometimes I think B&B should leave any social issues alone because they’re not gonna put the time into handling those things with care and they end up making a mockery of the issue.

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There are a lot of people in the world who Believe DNA is more important than love or the actual raising of a child. Look at how many times in the real world people refer to an entertainer‘s child as their adoptive child. Why is that necessary when legally that’s their son or daughter. I think about Brad and Angelina and their children. Look at how the media makes the distinction between their adoptive children and the birth children. Yet they say there’s truly no difference. Sometimes I think B&B should leave any social issues alone because they’re not gonna put the time into handling those things with care and they end up making a mockery of the issue.

True. They should do it the right way or not do it at all. The rewriting history, though, is just as frustrating. And I think there's a good chance they'll do that here.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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There are a lot of people in the world who Believe DNA is more important than love or the actual raising of a child. Look at how many times in the real world people refer to an entertainer‘s child as their adoptive child. Why is that necessary when legally that’s their son or daughter. I think about Brad and Angelina and their children. Look at how the media makes the distinction between their adoptive children and the birth children. Yet they say there’s truly no difference. Sometimes I think B&B should leave any social issues alone because they’re not gonna put the time into handling those things with care and they end up making a mockery of the issue.

Brooke's already stirring the pot that's her gig boudinski guess she needs air time

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

irl yes, on the show who knows lol

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

It won’t be handled the same way because Bell will somehow have Steffy come out on top. This show is so very one-sided given the fact the Tridge mafia’s misdeeds/crimes always get swept under the rug..while everyone else suffers. IMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

It won’t be handled the same way because Bell will somehow have Steffy come out on top. This show is so very one-sided given the fact the Tridge mafia’s misdeeds/crimes always get swept under the rug..while everyone else suffers. IMO.

Always.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

No, because Liam signed away his rights when he annulled the marriage to Steffy. Liam and Steffy don't have a custody agreement, which can be altered at any time.

Also Hope and Thomas are supposed to have shared custody. I don't agree that Hope adopted him because that would mean Thomas's rights as the biological parent was terminated.

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I think a judge would want to know why Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy. He didn't just wake up one morning and decided he was over Steffy and wanted Hope instead.
Steffy slept with her FIL, kept it secret and took a paternity test. This is the one and only reason why this marriage ended. This was mostly Steffy's fault. Infidelity totally justifies a divorce when 2 parents fight over the custody of a child.

In Douglas' case, I don't know how it will be handled but one thing is clear, Thomas should never have sole custody. He signed papers several years ago giving Hope joint custody. The extension of time to change his mind is obviously finished today. Hope has joint custody hasn't done anything wrong.

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I think a judge would want to know why Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy. He didn't just wake up one morning and decided he was over Steffy and wanted Hope instead.
Steffy slept with her FIL, kept it secret and took a paternity test. This is the one and only reason why this marriage ended. This was mostly Steffy's fault. Infidelity totally justifies a divorce when 2 parents fight over the custody of a child.

In Douglas' case, I don't know how it will be handled but one thing is clear, Thomas should never have sole custody. He signed papers several years ago giving Hope joint custody. The extension of time to change his mind is obviously finished today. Hope has joint custody hasn't done anything wrong.

Liam didn't give up any rights to his kid through an annulment. All that happens is that paternity has to be reestablished, and the court will either make them take a paternity test or Steffy will agree that Kelly is Liam's.

Carter, the attorney, called the papers Hope and Thomas signed "Adoption" papers, per the transcripts.

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I think a judge would want to know why Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy. He didn't just wake up one morning and decided he was over Steffy and wanted Hope instead.
Steffy slept with her FIL, kept it secret and took a paternity test. This is the one and only reason why this marriage ended. This was mostly Steffy's fault. Infidelity totally justifies a divorce when 2 parents fight over the custody of a child.

In Douglas' case, I don't know how it will be handled but one thing is clear, Thomas should never have sole custody. He signed papers several years ago giving Hope joint custody. The extension of time to change his mind is obviously finished today. Hope has joint custody hasn't done anything wrong.

Liam didn't give up any rights to his kid through an annulment. All that happens is that paternity has to be reestablished, and the court will either make them take a paternity test or Steffy will agree that Kelly is Liam's.

Carter, the attorney, called the papers Hope and Thomas signed "Adoption" papers, per the transcripts.

Right. And then there was the scene where Thomas and Hope sat Douglas down and told him that Hope as adopting him.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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I think a judge would want to know why Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy. He didn't just wake up one morning and decided he was over Steffy and wanted Hope instead.
Steffy slept with her FIL, kept it secret and took a paternity test. This is the one and only reason why this marriage ended. This was mostly Steffy's fault. Infidelity totally justifies a divorce when 2 parents fight over the custody of a child.

In Douglas' case, I don't know how it will be handled but one thing is clear, Thomas should never have sole custody. He signed papers several years ago giving Hope joint custody. The extension of time to change his mind is obviously finished today. Hope has joint custody hasn't done anything wrong.

Liam didn't give up any rights to his kid through an annulment. All that happens is that paternity has to be reestablished, and the court will either make them take a paternity test or Steffy will agree that Kelly is Liam's.

Carter, the attorney, called the papers Hope and Thomas signed "Adoption" papers, per the transcripts.

Right. And then there was the scene where Thomas and Hope sat Douglas down and told him that Hope as adopting him.

Yep, that, too. Thomas didn't have to terminate his rights as a father. Hope adopted Douglas as the mother, not father. But since the script says she did it, then if he had to terminate, he must have done it then, according to the script. :-P

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I think a judge would want to know why Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy. He didn't just wake up one morning and decided he was over Steffy and wanted Hope instead.
Steffy slept with her FIL, kept it secret and took a paternity test. This is the one and only reason why this marriage ended. This was mostly Steffy's fault. Infidelity totally justifies a divorce when 2 parents fight over the custody of a child.

In Douglas' case, I don't know how it will be handled but one thing is clear, Thomas should never have sole custody. He signed papers several years ago giving Hope joint custody. The extension of time to change his mind is obviously finished today. Hope has joint custody hasn't done anything wrong.

Liam didn't give up any rights to his kid through an annulment. All that happens is that paternity has to be reestablished, and the court will either make them take a paternity test or Steffy will agree that Kelly is Liam's.

Carter, the attorney, called the papers Hope and Thomas signed "Adoption" papers, per the transcripts.

Right. And then there was the scene where Thomas and Hope sat Douglas down and told him that Hope as adopting him.

Yep, that, too. Thomas didn't have to terminate his rights as a father. Hope adopted Douglas as the mother, not father. But since the script says she did it, then if he had to terminate, he must have done it then, according to the script.

I'm guessing the show will just do another ridiculous rewrite anyway. It's so lame.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

Yes, that's how it should work. But, would it be handled the same way if Liam wanted Kelly to move in with him?

No, because Liam signed away his rights when he annulled the marriage to Steffy. Liam and Steffy don't have a custody agreement, which can be altered at any time.

Also Hope and Thomas are supposed to have shared custody. I don't agree that Hope adopted him because that would mean Thomas's rights as the biological parent was terminated.

Liam didn't sign away his rights. You don't need to be married to be a father.

If custody arrangements can be changed then Liam can say he wants to start having one.

Hope did adopt him. It was said on the show on that she did, by several characters.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liam didn't sign away his rights. You don't need to be married to be a father.

If custody arrangements can be changed then Liam can say he wants to start having one.

Hope did adopt him. It was said on the show on that she did, by several characters.

In most cases, the unmarried mother gets sole custody automatically. It was also said on the show that she has custody, which can be changed at any time. The show never made it clear and used the term adoption and custody interchangeably, and they are not the same thing.

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the adoption makes no difference, they're both his parents, whether biologically or adoptively
either they share custody 50/50 or one of them will be the custodial parent while the other has visitation,
currently it's thomas that has visitation, but that's what they're aiming to change

The adoption makes every difference because without it, Hope has no say and can't even legally call herself Douglas' guardian.

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