was that a setup? (General)

theduchess, 10/13/2021, 2:05PM (6 days ago)

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?

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Drangonfly @, 10/13/2021, 2:08PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

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That thought went through my mind. But, I think Thomas really is redeemed. I've despised him for the last few years but I find myself actually kinda, sorta liking him now.

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"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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krort @, 10/13/2021, 2:18PM (6 days ago) @Drangonfly

I can't say I like Thomas any better. And I also would not put it past him to set this up. It happened so fast, him willing to GIVE it all to Paris tho she then said she would accept but pay.


For a girl who practically lives out of her car trunk, she sure is lucky. First with Steffy and now with Thomas.

Sure is going to put a damper on Zende's plans I am sure.

Wanda

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theduchess, 10/13/2021, 2:23PM (6 days ago) @krort

I can't say I like Thomas any better. And I also would not put it past him to set this up. It happened so fast, him willing to GIVE it all to Paris tho she then said she would accept but pay.


For a girl who practically lives out of her car trunk, she sure is lucky. First with Steffy and now with Thomas.

Sure is going to put a damper on Zende's plans I am sure.

Wanda

i wouldn't put it past him either, time will tell

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LadyMac @, 10/13/2021, 3:10PM (6 days ago) @krort

I can't say I like Thomas any better. And I also would not put it past him to set this up. It happened so fast, him willing to GIVE it all to Paris tho she then said she would accept but pay.


For a girl who practically lives out of her car trunk, she sure is lucky. First with Steffy and now with Thomas.

Sure is going to put a damper on Zende's plans I am sure.

Wanda

But even I gotta admit, Paris looked pretty hot today.

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theduchess, 10/13/2021, 2:22PM (6 days ago) @Drangonfly

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


That thought went through my mind. But, I think Thomas really is redeemed. I've despised him for the last few years but I find myself actually kinda, sorta liking him now.

well they had to create a space for he and paris to blossom so......living together accidentally is a start :lol

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hopeyougogirl, 10/13/2021, 2:38PM (6 days ago) @Drangonfly

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


That thought went through my mind. But, I think Thomas really is redeemed. I've despised him for the last few years but I find myself actually kinda, sorta liking him now.

I still don't like him and I don't think he's fully trustworthy cuz he already knew his cousin is into Paris. He already knows that if he keeps pursuing Paris, he's gonna hurt his cousin Zende.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Kammie, 10/13/2021, 6:32PM (6 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Has hurting a family member by going after their girlfriend or wife ever stopped Thomas? Seems as though he gets his jollies by going after unavailable women. Once he gets Paris he will quickly bore of her, he always does.

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Barbybo, 10/13/2021, 5:12PM (6 days ago) @Drangonfly

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


That thought went through my mind. But, I think Thomas really is redeemed. I've despised him for the last few years but I find myself actually kinda, sorta liking him now.

Hi, I really like the tom character….he needs a nice new gal

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hopeyougogirl, 10/13/2021, 2:36PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

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Wouldn't surprise me if he set this up..after all, he's sneaky.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Lizzy54, 10/13/2021, 3:14PM (6 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Zende will certainly get hurt, but not by Tom only, it will be by Paris...did no one notice that coy smile she gave Tom while hugging his cousin?

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hopeyougogirl, 10/13/2021, 5:46PM (6 days ago) @Lizzy54

Zende will certainly get hurt, but not by Tom only, it will be by Paris...did no one notice that coy smile she gave Tom while hugging his cousin?

Well yeah, if Paris hooks up with Thomas, then she's hurting Zende too. But I was talking more about the topic of this set up which wouldn't surprise me if Thomas came up with it, and Paris wouldn't know about this set up.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Lizzy54, 10/14/2021, 12:50AM (6 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

I think Paris wouldn´t even care if it was a setup...she seems interested in Tom too though kissing his cousin.
So if Tom was in manipulating mode again I suppose Paris would be fine with it...she seems to want her Zende cake and eat some Tom cake too.

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hopeyougogirl, 10/14/2021, 1:45AM (6 days ago) @Lizzy54

I think Paris wouldn´t even care if it was a setup...she seems interested in Tom too though kissing his cousin.
So if Tom was in manipulating mode again I suppose Paris would be fine with it...she seems to want her Zende cake and eat some Tom cake too.

I'm not so sure Paris would be fine with Thomas manipulating a set up (if he did), but it's obvious Bell wants to create this new triangle of Zende/Paris/Thomas.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Ilovebizzie, 10/13/2021, 3:17PM (6 days ago) @theduchess- one person liked this

Nah, I don’t think so. I think dishonest Thomas is in the past now.

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Barbybo, 10/13/2021, 5:12PM (6 days ago) @Ilovebizzie

Nah, I don’t think so. I think dishonest Thomas is in the past now.

Hi, yes I think he’s turned the corner

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jammer, The BURGH, 10/13/2021, 3:17PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

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Nothing the wack-a-doodle Tom does surprises me. It's well in his realm of derangement to set up the situation to satisfy his demented mind.

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KatieFan32, 10/13/2021, 3:31PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

I didn't see it that way. Not at all.

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q, 10/13/2021, 4:17PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

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Well if Paris moves in, Thomas will have a readily available baby sitter. She already gets along with Douglas.

I noticed Thomas still has a mannequin but without a head. Unlike Hopes that mannequin won't be talking to him and he won't be kissing it.

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PatriotGirl @, 10/13/2021, 4:42PM (6 days ago) @q

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


Well if Paris moves in, Thomas will have a readily available baby sitter. She already gets along with Douglas.

I noticed Thomas still has a mannequin but without a head. Unlike Hopes that mannequin won't be talking to him and he won't be kissing it.

Paris needs a babysitter.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 10/13/2021, 5:17PM (6 days ago) @PatriotGirl

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


Well if Paris moves in, Thomas will have a readily available baby sitter. She already gets along with Douglas.

I noticed Thomas still has a mannequin but without a head. Unlike Hopes that mannequin won't be talking to him and he won't be kissing it.


Paris needs a babysitter.

100%

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There is no Hope for this show :wink

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Barbybo, 10/13/2021, 4:20PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?

Cancelled plot to set up a triangle just what we need

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BBDownunder, 10/13/2021, 5:52PM (6 days ago) @Barbybo

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


Cancelled plot to set up a triangle just what we need

i couldnt care less about Brad's newest little darling

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krort @, 10/13/2021, 6:03PM (6 days ago) @BBDownunder

Whether yes or no it was a set up for Thomas and Paris is completely innocent and knows nothing of any new arrangement, tell me in what right universe if a couple call themselves girlfriend and boyfriend would Zende be okay with Paris living with another available guy. So if she says yes to this now, what does that make her?


Wanda

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Grannysmith, 10/13/2021, 7:35PM (6 days ago) @theduchess

No …he got the sale info on his phone…he could not have made that happen just when Paris was there. What I don’t know is this sublet paperwork since that would state the rent…Thomas said he’d cover it…she said no she will pay her way because she’s so fortunate…suddenly….not before when Zoe left…but now she is…anyway…how can she pay what Thomas paid for the place? Granted it isn’t much of a place by Forrester and Spencer standards and it had been Vinny’s before so maybe the rent is manageable.

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PatriotGirl @, 10/13/2021, 8:02PM (6 days ago) @Grannysmith

No …he got the sale info on his phone…he could not have made that happen just when Paris was there. What I don’t know is this sublet paperwork since that would state the rent…Thomas said he’d cover it…she said no she will pay her way because she’s so fortunate…suddenly….not before when Zoe left…but now she is…anyway…how can she pay what Thomas paid for the place? Granted it isn’t much of a place by Forrester and Spencer standards and it had been Vinny’s before so maybe the rent is manageable.

She should have plenty of money stashed from her free summer in Malibu to help cover the rent at Thomas’ apartment for a while. But don’t leases normally have a policy allowing a renter to cancel within the first 24 or 48 hours of signing which would allow her to bow out gracefully and let Thomas keep the apartment. :neutral

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viennagirl @, 10/14/2021, 3:44AM (6 days ago) @Grannysmith

No …he got the sale info on his phone…he could not have made that happen just when Paris was there. What I don’t know is this sublet paperwork since that would state the rent…Thomas said he’d cover it…she said no she will pay her way because she’s so fortunate…suddenly….not before when Zoe left…but now she is…anyway…how can she pay what Thomas paid for the place? Granted it isn’t much of a place by Forrester and Spencer standards and it had been Vinny’s before so maybe the rent is manageable.

Money wasn't the sole issue then.

Paris was paying for a hotel, when Steffy offered Paris to move in.

Paris was looking for an apartment in a special part of LA, that still wouldn't be too expensive.


Zoe's apartment really had been Vinny's apartment, who let Zoe move in when Vinny moved in with his girlfriend.
That apartment might have fulfilled Paris' expectations, but the lease had been up.

( Has Zoe been a tenant or just the subtenant?)

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But yes, Paris is a girl with unbelievable luck, when she always can just move in, always gets a home offered (and her boyfriend has offered already several times that she could move in with Zende).

But Zoe too had been offered a home by Thomas, who first offered up Vinny's apartment, when Vinny at that time was staying at his girlfriends.
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Paris: [ Sighs ] Well, it was a curve ball when Zoe decided she wasn’t gonna come back to la, so everything’s fallen on me. I have to vacate her apartment, put all of her stuff in storage, and find my own place.
And, you know, it’s just been hard, especially because la is so expensive, especially on the west side where I’d like to be. And I don’t know. I just kind of like a vagabond, living with my life in the trunk of my car.

Finn: Are you still in the apartment?
Paris: No, I left. Now, I’m in a hotel.
Steffy: You’re in a hotel?
Paris: Yeah, but it’s only until I find a place.
Steffy: Paris, would you like to stay with us?
(July 21, 2021)

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viennagirl @, 10/14/2021, 3:49AM (6 days ago) @theduchess

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?

I want to give Thomas the chance to have changed - so at the moment I go with "It is as the texts told Thomas".

I just wonder how they will now deal with the situation.


Will he take the offer back?

Will Paris offer to move out?

Will they live there together?

Will Thomas move in with Eric?
Is Zende still living with Eric?
Will Paris then end up there too? (moving in with Zende, or ending up there as Thomas' girlfriend after some months of waffling)

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Brenda fan, 10/14/2021, 4:14AM (6 days ago) @viennagirl

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


I want to give Thomas the chance to have changed - so at the moment I go with "It is as the texts told Thomas".

I just wonder how they will now deal with the situation.


Will he take the offer back?

Will Paris offer to move out?

Will they live there together?

Will Thomas move in with Eric?
Is Zende still living with Eric?
Will Paris then end up there too? (moving in with Zende, or ending up there as Thomas' girlfriend after some months of waffling)

No. Thomas stays at his place but so does Paris. They celebrate them being room mates on Thursday.

Why would Thomas move to Eric's if he already owns Vinny's place? The proper thing is Paris would leave. Even if Thomas Says they BOTH can live there, that's not the right thing at all and her dumbself should know that! It's not like Thomas moved to the house for awhile, while Paris lived there. Thomas plan fell through so that means so does Paris plan. It's not complex.

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viennagirl @, 10/14/2021, 4:28AM (6 days ago) @Brenda fan
edited by viennagirl, 10/14/2021, 4:42AM

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


I want to give Thomas the chance to have changed - so at the moment I go with "It is as the texts told Thomas".

I just wonder how they will now deal with the situation.


Will he take the offer back?

Will Paris offer to move out?

Will they live there together?

Will Thomas move in with Eric?
Is Zende still living with Eric?
Will Paris then end up there too? (moving in with Zende, or ending up there as Thomas' girlfriend after some months of waffling)


No. Thomas stays at his place but so does Paris. They celebrate them being room mates on Thursday.

Why would Thomas move to Eric's if he already owns Vinny's place? The proper thing is Paris would leave. Even if Thomas Says they BOTH can live there, that's not the right thing at all and her dumbself should know that! It's not like Thomas moved to the house for awhile, while Paris lived there. Thomas plan fell through so that means so does Paris plan. It's not complex.


That's a similar apartment (maybe in the same apartment complex as Vinny's) but it isn't the apartment where Vinny lived.
There are/ were two apartments that look/looked very similar (but had different couches, chairs, floors).


Zoe has moved into Vinny's apartment in fall/winter 2019.

Thomas has been shown living in his apartment since last summer (2020). (the scenes with the mannequin)

But Zoe (and Paris) only had to move out of Vinny's (former) apartment this year.
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ITA that Paris should just move out again and back in with her friend (or her boyfriend).

Why would she live with another man? But that is B&B, so I am not sure she will to the obvious.


Thomas apartment:
CBS picture of Thomas' apartment
posted in this SID article:
SID article

Vinny's /Zoe's apartment:

CBS twitter picture

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Barbybo, 10/14/2021, 7:30AM (6 days ago) @viennagirl

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?


I want to give Thomas the chance to have changed - so at the moment I go with "It is as the texts told Thomas".

I just wonder how they will now deal with the situation.


Will he take the offer back?

Will Paris offer to move out?

Will they live there together?

Will Thomas move in with Eric?
Is Zende still living with Eric?
Will Paris then end up there too? (moving in with Zende, or ending up there as Thomas' girlfriend after some months of waffling)


No. Thomas stays at his place but so does Paris. They celebrate them being room mates on Thursday.

Why would Thomas move to Eric's if he already owns Vinny's place? The proper thing is Paris would leave. Even if Thomas Says they BOTH can live there, that's not the right thing at all and her dumbself should know that! It's not like Thomas moved to the house for awhile, while Paris lived there. Thomas plan fell through so that means so does Paris plan. It's not complex.

That's a similar apartment (maybe in the same apartment complex as Vinny's) but it isn't the apartment where Vinny lived.
There are/ were two apartments that look/looked very similar (but had different couches, chairs, floors).


Zoe has moved into Vinny's apartment in fall/winter 2019.

Thomas has been shown living in his apartment since last summer (2020). (the scenes with the mannequin)

But Zoe (and Paris) only had to move out of Vinny's (former) apartment this year.
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ITA that Paris should just move out again and back in with her friend (or her boyfriend).

Why would she live with another man? But that is B&B, so I am not sure she will to the obvious.


Thomas apartment:
CBS picture of Thomas' apartment
posted in this SID article:
SID article

Vinny's /Zoe's apartment:

CBS twitter picture

If paris is so wonderful why ain’t she making enough money to rent on her own? Maybe she needs a new job ..why aren’t her and Zende moving in together I mean she hardly knows tom..it’s a small apartment tight quarters ..toms rich why is he living in that dump? Maybe paris needs a raise

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BellaSole, Bergamo, Italy, 10/14/2021, 5:06AM (6 days ago) @theduchess
edited by BellaSole, 10/14/2021, 5:11AM

did thomas set up that whole thing so that paris would 'accidentally' end up living with him or was the sale really cancelled?

thoughts?

I don't think it was a set-up. I'm fine with a triangle. Zende, Paris, and Thomas are all single people. I'm fine with Thomas and Paris sharing an apartment, too. I wouldn't do it, but lots of young people, guys and girls, share apartments now on a "just friends" basis.

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