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BBDownunder, 6/10/2021, 9:39PM (9 days ago)

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

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Drangonfly @, 6/10/2021, 9:50PM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder- one person liked this

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/10/2021, 9:58PM (9 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???

I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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BBDownunder, 6/10/2021, 10:12PM (9 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk

dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)

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hopeyougogirl, 6/11/2021, 4:20PM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)

And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 4:29PM (8 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle

Or getting emotional over it.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 4:29PM (8 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle

Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 5:29PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.

What decisions need to be made about Kelly?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 5:56PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?

How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 8:54PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?


How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.

That doesn't need to be done now. Hope and Liam haven't even discussed how to tell Beth and Douglas. And Liam hasn't even been sentenced. What they tell Kelly would depend on the length of Liam's jail term.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 9:20PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?


How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.


That doesn't need to be done now. Hope and Liam haven't even discussed how to tell Beth and Douglas. And Liam hasn't even been sentenced. What they tell Kelly would depend on the length of Liam's jail term.

Well apparently Liam thinks it's time because he is asking Thomas next week to watch out for Kelly and Beth for him. Steffy needs to tell Kelly something soon because she will be asking to see her daddy and Steffy will not have the advantage of being in touch with Liam everyday like Hope will. We don't know what Hope has told the kids already but I'll bet Liam knows what she's told them so far.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 9:47PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?


How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.


That doesn't need to be done now. Hope and Liam haven't even discussed how to tell Beth and Douglas. And Liam hasn't even been sentenced. What they tell Kelly would depend on the length of Liam's jail term.


Well apparently Liam thinks it's time because he is asking Thomas next week to watch out for Kelly and Beth for him. Steffy needs to tell Kelly something soon because she will be asking to see her daddy and Steffy will not have the advantage of being in touch with Liam everyday like Hope will. We don't know what Hope has told the kids already but I'll bet Liam knows what she's told them so far.

Steffy can go ahead and tell Kelly something right now. She doesn't need Liam to think of something.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 10:06PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?


How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.


That doesn't need to be done now. Hope and Liam haven't even discussed how to tell Beth and Douglas. And Liam hasn't even been sentenced. What they tell Kelly would depend on the length of Liam's jail term.


Well apparently Liam thinks it's time because he is asking Thomas next week to watch out for Kelly and Beth for him. Steffy needs to tell Kelly something soon because she will be asking to see her daddy and Steffy will not have the advantage of being in touch with Liam everyday like Hope will. We don't know what Hope has told the kids already but I'll bet Liam knows what she's told them so far.


Steffy can go ahead and tell Kelly something right now. She doesn't need Liam to think of something.

Liam wants to get his affairs in order on the outside and that should include speaking to the mother of his first born daughter.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 10:41PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???

I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


What decisions need to be made about Kelly?


How to explain why Daddy doesn't come to see her anymore, or take her to the park, the beach. Or how to answer when she asks when will she see him again. Those things should be discussed by her parents and not with her grandfather.


That doesn't need to be done now. Hope and Liam haven't even discussed how to tell Beth and Douglas. And Liam hasn't even been sentenced. What they tell Kelly would depend on the length of Liam's jail term.


Well apparently Liam thinks it's time because he is asking Thomas next week to watch out for Kelly and Beth for him. Steffy needs to tell Kelly something soon because she will be asking to see her daddy and Steffy will not have the advantage of being in touch with Liam everyday like Hope will. We don't know what Hope has told the kids already but I'll bet Liam knows what she's told them so far.


Steffy can go ahead and tell Kelly something right now. She doesn't need Liam to think of something.


Liam wants to get his affairs in order on the outside and that should include speaking to the mother of his first born daughter.

We know from JMW, though, that it's more than that. If it's just about Kelly, then why does Finn get annoyed by it?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/11/2021, 5:39PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.

Nah....Steffy just needed an excuse to see Liam. She's so transparent lol. They are co-parents, so unless Kelly ain't well..there's no reason for her to physically be in jail to see Liam.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 8:02PM (8 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


Nah....Steffy just needed an excuse to see Liam. She's so transparent lol. They are co-parents, so unless Kelly ain't well..there's no reason for her to physically be in jail to see Liam.

There is no reason not to visit the father of her daughter in jail. Steffy had three marriages with him, lost one child together and now co parent their daughter so if she wants to visit him that's fine with me. I have no problem with it. It doesn't mean she is longing or lusting after him. We also don't know yet if Liam asks to see her because he's concerned about Kelly. I will wait to to see how it plays out. Like it's always said, a lot of these spoilers are overblown and turn out to be nothing.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/11/2021, 8:49PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk


dont forget kelly is Liam's daughter ;-)


And Kelly is Bill's granddaughter and Still are friends just like Leffy, yet Steffy ain't visiting her friend Bill? :whistle


Bill doesn't have any say in decisions that affect Kelly in this situation. Kelly's father is the one she needs to speak to.


Nah....Steffy just needed an excuse to see Liam. She's so transparent lol. They are co-parents, so unless Kelly ain't well..there's no reason for her to physically be in jail to see Liam.


There is no reason not to visit the father of her daughter in jail. Steffy had three marriages with him, lost one child together and now co parent their daughter so if she wants to visit him that's fine with me. I have no problem with it. It doesn't mean she is longing or lusting after him. We also don't know yet if Liam asks to see her because he's concerned about Kelly. I will wait to to see how it plays out. Like it's always said, a lot of these spoilers are overblown and turn out to be nothing.

I'll keep my opinion..but for Steffy's sake, I hope this spoiler is overblown. :-P

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 6/10/2021, 10:14PM (9 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???


I think she forgot she's actually Finn's fiance, and NOT Liam's wife. :drunk

Finn who?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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BellaSole, 6/10/2021, 10:19PM (9 days ago) @Drangonfly

I hope he's Vinny's killer, I really do. He's just too cookie cutter perfect for me. But I don't think he had anything to do with Vinny since his family is coming to town later. It's clear, though, that Steffy really loves Liam. At least to me. LOL

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 12:04AM (9 days ago) @BellaSole

I hope he's Vinny's killer, I really do. He's just too cookie cutter perfect for me. But I don't think he had anything to do with Vinny since his family is coming to town later. It's clear, though, that Steffy really loves Liam. At least to me. LOL

Yeah, I think the real killers are going to be the drug dealers.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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BellaSole, 6/11/2021, 12:34AM (9 days ago) @Drangonfly

That will so anti-climactic and such a let down. But, it's probably true. :(

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 6:47AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


Um, Steffy, you're just realizing that now???

I am sure she’s more worried about her daughter no dad, I mean liams a weirdo and she’s git the good doc

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KatieFan32, 6/10/2021, 10:01PM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

Can't wait to learn the truth about Vinny's death

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BBDownunder, 6/10/2021, 10:20PM (9 days ago) @KatieFan32

Can't wait to learn the truth about Vinny's death

yeah it will happen fast - we cant have Saint Liam in jail for long

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 6:57PM (7 days ago) @KatieFan32

I really want to know that, too. Who killed Vinny? And why? I have a feeling it's going to be a big letdown. I hope I'm proven wrong.

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xenalwless, 6/10/2021, 11:11PM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

Seriously?Steffy had many many times been perfectly ok with a life without Liam. In fact she chose herself and kicked him to the curb, handed him to Hope.Heck when she woke up sober after the ons and saw him, even the possibility of reuniting Kelly's family felt disgusting to her.That's just another example of Bell using Steffy to prop Liam /lope.Steffy showed zero interest in a life with Liam since she chose herself and yet now out of the blue Bell does this...

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FancyGirl, 6/11/2021, 1:03AM (9 days ago) @xenalwless- 4 people liked this[O]

Seriously?Steffy had many many times been perfectly ok with a life without Liam. In fact she chose herself and kicked him to the curb, handed him to Hope.Heck when she woke up sober after the ons and saw him, even the possibility of reuniting Kelly's family felt disgusting to her.That's just another example of Bell using Steffy to prop Liam /lope.Steffy showed zero interest in a life with Liam since she chose herself and yet now out of the blue Bell does this...

When did she "kick him to the curb"? When she asked him if there was still a chance for her and Kelly to be with him? Or when she plotted with her evil brother and staged that kiss at the cliff house? Unless it was when she had drugged sex with him and told her brother she wanted a future with him, 5 minutes after Hope annulled her marriage? Or maybe it was when she thought Liam saw his wife kissing Thomas, and immediately jumped in bed with him and confessed a life with him still seemed possible?

It's not "kicking to the curb" if 5 minutes later the person is asking is there is still a chance :roll . Yes, Steffy was upset when she walked in on Liam kissing Hope in the dressing room. For a brief moment, she sounded like she accepted it and moved on. But that flew out of the window fast.

Felt disgusting to her? Is that why she told Liam that night of sex with him was unforgettable and a beautiful moment she'll cherish forever? Is that why she said being in his arms felt so good and confessed he is always going to be the one for her? She didn't feel disgusted to me. :whistle Nothing about Steffy and Liam is out of the blue.

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Lizzy54, 6/11/2021, 5:17AM (9 days ago) @FancyGirl

I agree...exactly what I wanted to write, even after she "chose herself" she slept with Liam (when Tom had given him drugs) and woke up saying Cha cha cha...she kissed him when Tom told her to, she slept with him when he arrived on Tequila Night...this all happened AFTER she chose herself...if Liam were not with Hope she would leave Finn in a minute to be with Liam again.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 7:28AM (8 days ago) @FancyGirl

When she chose herself and Liam, Hope and Thomas had to use Kelly to get her to show him any freaking interest

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Vik., 6/11/2021, 12:19AM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

Finally something to look forward to. (not the 3rd spoiler, but the part about Vinny's death revealed and the dangerous situation)

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BoldDay1, 6/11/2021, 1:01AM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

I believe the guard watching Liam was involved with killing Vinny. Maybe there are dirty cops that were into drugs with Vinny. I think Thomas figures it out and is in danger.

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BellaSole, 6/11/2021, 8:21AM (8 days ago) @BoldDay1

I think that's it, too, but that isn't the shocker I was hoping for. Really, it's not shocking at all since we don't know the cop and have no emotional investment in him. I wanted it to be someone we know. Like Finn. I admit, I can't stand the good doctor. He's about as interesting as Flat Stanley.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 3:32AM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

I wonder who will be blamed this time? They should have just left Liam as the killer.

They really can't write for Liam without Steffy being involved? Lol.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 7:30AM (8 days ago) @Freya

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 9:10AM (8 days ago) @xenalwless

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.

Hope and Liam have been in this huge story for months now, with no help from Steffy. No propping needed. But Sinn sure do need propping. All they ever do is exchange I love you's. That's their entire story.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 9:21AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 9:25AM (8 days ago) @xenalwless

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.

That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 9:45AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

It's the other way around. There is so much they could write for Steffy but they don't because they need her to prop lope.Same goes with Thomas. So much could be done with him, But they use him to prop lope.If Steffy needed a story, there is plenty to write for her.Instead they refuse to to prop their favorites.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 10:51AM (8 days ago) @xenalwless

It's the other way around. There is so much they could write for Steffy but they don't because they need her to prop lope.Same goes with Thomas. So much could be done with him, But they use him to prop lope.If Steffy needed a story, there is plenty to write for her.Instead they refuse to to prop their favorites.

What story could they even write for Sinn right now? We know absolutely nothing about Finn. He isn't connected to any other character on the show. Not yet. They're happily engaged and looking forward to having a baby. That is not the recipe for a big story. I'm sure they'll have one, I hope so, once they start having some angst to deal with. But right now, there is nothing else to do with Steffy but put her in Lope's story.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 12:48PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

Well precisely, they could start developping his past,no need for him to be related to anyone. So much could be done with them, so many drama and challenges that don't include cheating, abuse or proping lope. A solid couple that faces whatever life throws their way, together.So many fans came up with so many stories for SINN/Steffty that don't include lope and proping lope. If we could come up with so many stories,I expect a so called talented professional writer to be capable of doing the same, even better.A few suggestions made by the fans:


Steffy goes dark and only have that soft spot for her daughter, mother, & brother. Let her go back to hating Logans, & begin blaming Ridge & Eric for allowing their reign of terror & use Bill’s love to crush EVERYONE, even Bill... at first.

Steffy goes dark and meets her biological grandfather Massimo and leaves Forresters to work with him.

-Bring in a new hot guy that blows all the rest outta the water and let Steffy have a new life with new hot guy(Finn)

Kelly end up being Bills freeing her completly ftom liam.Need the real Steffy back.

-Become the independent, bad-ass that she used to be. She doesn't need either Liam Or BILL. Raise her baby on her own while dating having fun,


-Steffy meets and becomes friends with a mysterious redhead, not realizing that it is in fact the woman who kidnapped her as a child: Morgan DeWitt. Eventually Morgan snaps & holds Steffy hostage; ultimately she is saved by Thomas, Finn & Taylor!

-Steffy and Katie doing whatever, like get Revenge on the Spencer men

Steffy begins receiving mysterious messages, which lead her & Taylor on an adventure to Morocco where they discover that Phoebe has been alive, & held by Prince Omar, this entire time!

And so many more

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 11:08AM (8 days ago) @xenalwless

It's the other way around. There is so much they could write for Steffy but they don't because they need her to prop lope.Same goes with Thomas. So much could be done with him, But they use him to prop lope.If Steffy needed a story, there is plenty to write for her.Instead they refuse to to prop their favorites.

Exactly. Lope are such a snooze fest that it takes a village to prop them and they are still boring.

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 7:09PM (7 days ago) @Freya

Where is this village?

Brooke and Ridge are seen once in a while because they are Hope's mother and step-father.
Thomas is Ridge's son, and Vinny was his best friend, so naturally, he's part of the story.
Zoe and Paris don't seem to care about Hope or Liam.
Shauna and Quinn don't seem to care about Hope or Liam. Eric doesn't, either. Heck, he doesn't even seem to care about Steffy, his granddaughter.
Wyatt cares about his brother, but Flo seems to have no opinion.
Finn doesn't seem interested at all.

Only Steffy is inserting herself in the SL with Liam and Bill. She just cannot stay away from Liam. She needs to prove to herself that she can still get and keep his attention. (I guess we're really going to have to wait to see how the scene plays out, but I'm suspicious of Steffy's motives because she's emotional. Liam has a wife to fill that role.)

This has been a Hope and Liam SL for a long time, and ratings keep going up. So, in my humble opinion, it doesn't take a village, or anyone, really, to make Hope and Liam interesting.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 10:47AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this
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What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.

That so-called "huge story" doesn't count because JMW was on ML and could physically not be on screen. The "huge story" only exists because of Steffy anyway. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Liam and Hope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 10:54AM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.

Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 11:04AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.

No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love

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q, 6/11/2021, 11:22AM (8 days ago) @Freya- one person liked this

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love

Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 11:29AM (8 days ago) @q

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.

They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep

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q, 6/11/2021, 11:34AM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep

LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 11:38AM (8 days ago) @q

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.

Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 11:47AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.


Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.

Sinn have been on for one week and they are at their happy phase. That is exactly the kind of story they're supposed to have right now. I don't want to watch Steffy sad while pregnant ever again. Even Scott said he regretted the cruelty of that storyline. Steffy deserves to be happy.

All lope have is "poor us" over and over. What a snoozefest. In any case, the Liam and Hope story doesn't count because Steffy's actress was off screen and not available.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 11:52AM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.


Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.


Sinn have been on for one week and they are at their happy phase. That is exactly the kind of story they're supposed to have right now. I don't want to watch Steffy sad while pregnant ever again. Even Scott said he regretted the cruelty of that storyline. Steffy deserves to be happy.

All lope have is "poor us" over and over. What a snoozefest. In any case, the Liam and Hope story doesn't count because Steffy's actress was off screen and not available.

Doesn't count for what? Hope and Liam have had a story the whole time Steffy has been driving up and down the coast, or whatever she's been doing. The hit-and-run story has been just fine without her.

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"You're the love of my life."

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 12:04PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.

That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.


Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.


Sinn have been on for one week and they are at their happy phase. That is exactly the kind of story they're supposed to have right now. I don't want to watch Steffy sad while pregnant ever again. Even Scott said he regretted the cruelty of that storyline. Steffy deserves to be happy.

All lope have is "poor us" over and over. What a snoozefest. In any case, the Liam and Hope story doesn't count because Steffy's actress was off screen and not available.


Doesn't count for what? Hope and Liam have had a story the whole time Steffy has been driving up and down the coast, or whatever she's been doing. The hit-and-run story has been just fine without her.

It does not count because Steffy was out of town. It's irrelevant. They can only have a story without Steffy if Steffy is physically not there. In any case, Steffy was the catalyst. No Steffy, no story for the eternal victims.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 12:36PM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.

That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.

That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.


Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.


Sinn have been on for one week and they are at their happy phase. That is exactly the kind of story they're supposed to have right now. I don't want to watch Steffy sad while pregnant ever again. Even Scott said he regretted the cruelty of that storyline. Steffy deserves to be happy.

All lope have is "poor us" over and over. What a snoozefest. In any case, the Liam and Hope story doesn't count because Steffy's actress was off screen and not available.


Doesn't count for what? Hope and Liam have had a story the whole time Steffy has been driving up and down the coast, or whatever she's been doing. The hit-and-run story has been just fine without her.


It does not count because Steffy was out of town. It's irrelevant. They can only have a story without Steffy if Steffy is physically not there. In any case, Steffy was the catalyst. No Steffy, no story for the eternal victims.

What difference does it make if they're in a story without Steffy while she's on the show or off? The story they're in now is relevant because it's successful. No Steffy needed. I think it's telling that, now that Sinn are back, they're not given their own story.

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LadyMac @, 6/11/2021, 12:42PM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.

That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.

That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.


Right? That's Sinn's entire dialogue now. I love you and you're so wonderful. Too bad they don't bring new characters in for them or at least give them their own story.


Sinn have been on for one week and they are at their happy phase. That is exactly the kind of story they're supposed to have right now. I don't want to watch Steffy sad while pregnant ever again. Even Scott said he regretted the cruelty of that storyline. Steffy deserves to be happy.

All lope have is "poor us" over and over. What a snoozefest. In any case, the Liam and Hope story doesn't count because Steffy's actress was off screen and not available.


Doesn't count for what? Hope and Liam have had a story the whole time Steffy has been driving up and down the coast, or whatever she's been doing. The hit-and-run story has been just fine without her.


It does not count because Steffy was out of town. It's irrelevant. They can only have a story without Steffy if Steffy is physically not there. In any case, Steffy was the catalyst. No Steffy, no story for the eternal victims.

By this logic, all the love Liam expressed to Steffy when Hope was in Milan (after KM departed the show) doesn't count either. Got it.

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PatriotGirl @, 6/11/2021, 12:08PM (8 days ago) @q

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.

Wyatt gave Hope a story as another love interest for her and Wyatt gave Liam the story of dealing with the sudden appearance of a brother and competitor. Otherwise it would have been the summer of snooze with Lope. They would have had no excuse not to try and get married again and again and again....numbers 7, 8 and 9, I think.:rofl It is a shame though that they wasted Wyatt on Hope.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 12:35PM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep


LOL. They brought in Wyatt and Quinn to give them a story. It was Hope that helped Wyatt get a story with Bill being his dad. Remember the swords that no one wears anymore?
And snooze fest? That's the only conversation Steffy and Finn have. They have to send Steffy to visit Liam just to give her some attention.

Wyatt gave Hope a story as another love interest for her and Wyatt gave Liam the story of dealing with the sudden appearance of a brother and competitor. Otherwise it would have been the summer of snooze with Lope. They would have had no excuse not to try and get married again and again and again....numbers 7, 8 and 9, I think.:rofl It is a shame though that they wasted Wyatt on Hope.

Liam and Hope are whiners who literally have to be carried by every other character. Such a waste.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 11:50AM (8 days ago) @PatriotGirl

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.


They had to bring in Wyatt and Quinn to bring interest to Lope because Steffy was gone. There was nothing for them except their daily mantra of telling each other how good, honest and wonderful they are. Snoozefest. :sleep :sleep

Exactly. Lope have been regurgitating the same "we are victims, feel sorry for us" nonsense for so long. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Plus, no one forced Liam to cheat on his boring wife. Now even Wyatt is on prop duty for the lope borefest.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 11:30AM (8 days ago) @q

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


Liam and Hope had stories when Steffy character wasn't even on the show. They don't need her for anything.
Steffy is used for angst. She was used for Bill and Katie, Jackie and Owen, Liam and Hope. She needs others to give her a story.

Exactly. She was used for angst for those couples because she was the manipulative seductress. I think things may change now that she finally has her own man. But, we'll see.

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 11:27AM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love

I'm talking about the characters, not the actress. I agree JMW is a very talented soap actress. I'll be rooting for her to win.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 11:55AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


I'm talking about the characters, not the actress. I agree JMW is a very talented soap actress. I'll be rooting for her to win.

The actress portrays the character. Lead Actress, Lead character. It has nothing to do with airtime. It's sad that Scott hasn't been nominated since 2017. Isn't it interesting? I felt for him when he said he regretted the scene where Liam left Steffy like that. He now knows it was wrong.

He and Jacqui are still the youngest ever to win in the Lead category.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/11/2021, 12:19PM (8 days ago) @Freya

What months?It's all about proping them.Otherwise, there is no need to involve Steffy just like there was no need for the ons to be with Steffy, just like STILL's ons wasn't necessary to pave the way for lope...but it had to be at Steffy's expense again.So yeah..instead of using all the stories they could be writing for SINN that isn't about liam/lope proping lope. they get Steffy involved in this ridiculous story, just to prop lope.


That's my point. They have no story that they want to write for Sinn so they put Steffy into Hope and Liam's. It's Steffy that NEEDS a story, not Hope and Liam. Their story is going along just fine, and the ratings for it are good.

If Hope and Liam are already in a huge story and Steffy is in no story at all, then how on earth is it Steffy that's doing the propping? She's the one that currently NEEDS the propping, so she can be in a story.


That so-called huge story only exists because of Steffy. Because Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy. Because Vinny tampered with Steffy's test. That's because Steffy drives story. Hope doesn't. Hope reacts and cries after stuff happens.

Steffy was off screen because her actress (JMW) was literally on ML and her character had just had a happy reunion. She's only been back two weeks. Of course Sinn have a story. It practically writes itself (arrival of a baby and the wedding). But that would take the focus away from Liam. The Liam character NEEDS Steffy. That's just the way it is.

Lope wouldn't even have a story if Steffy and Liam hadn't slept together. Jacqui is a Lead Actress Emmy WINNER and an nominee this year. She doesn't need propping lol.


Yes, Steffy has been angst for Lope.


No. Liam cheating on Hope with Steffy is not angst. It's Steffy having to prop them because they have no story without her. It's the Liam character needing Steffy because she's that popular. Liam and Hope's so-called story doesn't count because Steffy could not be on screen. The actress was not available during that period.

Jacqui is a LEAD ACTRESS who can achieve greatness in one scene. She's nominated again :love


I'm talking about the characters, not the actress. I agree JMW is a very talented soap actress. I'll be rooting for her to win.


The actress portrays the character. Lead Actress, Lead character. It has nothing to do with airtime. It's sad that Scott hasn't been nominated since 2017. Isn't it interesting? I felt for him when he said he regretted the scene where Liam left Steffy like that. He now knows it was wrong.

He and Jacqui are still the youngest ever to win in the Lead category.

I'm pretty sure SC had mentioned that he chose not to submit and that's why he wasn't nominated. Emmy has a process..and they don't just go around randomly nominate actors without them submitting first lol.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 12:50PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

Liam cheating with anyone but Steffy would have been angst for lope. But no, it had to be Steffy, to prop them, try to make them interesting.

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 7:15PM (7 days ago) @Freya

I think it exists because of Vinny. When the accident occurred, no one cared about the paternity tests any longer. That was over, done with, corrected, and everyone was happy. The SL exists because of whatever Vinny was doing out on that lonely road, walking, at night, dressed all in black. It exists because Vinny stumbled, or was pushed, in front of Bill's car.

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IW, 6/11/2021, 12:00PM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.


Hope and Liam have been in this huge story for months now, with no help from Steffy. No propping needed. But Sinn sure do need propping. All they ever do is exchange I love you's. That's their entire story.

Who says this Hope and Liam story isn't working? That's not what I'm seeing. The ratings have been increasing for weeks now, with this big storyline..., and Steffy wasn't anywhere around. I see a lot of people debating over what happened to Vinny and arguing about what will/should happen to Lope, predicting what will happen. This means the story is working well and frankly, Steffy wasn't needed at all so far.

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 7:18PM (7 days ago) @IW

I agree. Steffy visiting Liam in jail isn't even necessary. I think they want to focus on the guard, so someone had to visit Liam, and they didn't want to use Hope again. She just visited.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 10:28AM (8 days ago) @xenalwless

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.

That's it exactly. It's the only reason they would suddenly insert Steffy into this. The lope snoozefest isn't working.

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IW, 6/11/2021, 12:03PM (8 days ago) @Freya- one person liked this

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.


That's it exactly. It's the only reason they would suddenly insert Steffy into this. The lope snoozefest isn't working.

Seems like the opposite to me. Ratings have been up with Steffy off screen, and this Hope and Liam storyline gets a lot of support without Steffy. I think it's rather the writers inserting Hope and Liam in Sinn's snoozfest. These 2 spent the majority of their romance on the backburner, long before Steffy left town. If it weren't for Hope and Liam, they would not get drama at all and we would hardly ever see them.

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Freya, 6/11/2021, 12:38PM (8 days ago) @IW

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.


That's it exactly. It's the only reason they would suddenly insert Steffy into this. The lope snoozefest isn't working.


Seems like the opposite to me. Ratings have been up with Steffy off screen, and this Hope and Liam storyline gets a lot of support without Steffy. I think it's rather the writers inserting Hope and Liam in Sinn's snoozfest. These 2 spent the majority of their romance on the backburner, long before Steffy left town. If it weren't for Hope and Liam, they would not get drama at all and we would hardly ever see them.

Nope. Hope and Liam need propping 24/7. Boring characters. Sinn have only been on for one week and that was because JMW was on ML.

Quinn and Carter were the hot couple not boring, whinefest liam and that woman. Bye.

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 7:22PM (7 days ago) @Freya

I honestly don't think the ratings would drop if the Steffy character were written out. They went up when she was gone. I'm not saying I want Steffy to leave. Not at all. I'm just stating facts that even without Steffy and Finn being on, ratings keep going up. It can't be all due to Carter and Quinn, though I give them some credit, because that fling is over.

Hope and Liam are now the center of the show, just as Brooke and Ridge once were. No one has to like them, but the show has centered on them for years now, with others just as filler. I like Hope and Liam a lot, but even I wish they'd show some other SLs now and then like they've started to do.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/11/2021, 12:35PM (8 days ago) @Freya

Because Liam's stock value is equal to zero if Steffy isn't interested in him.They need her to prop him and lope.


That's it exactly. It's the only reason they would suddenly insert Steffy into this. The lope snoozefest isn't working.

Lol, the ratings have been up for two weeks straight. Folks are interested in Lope and Bill front and center in this Vinny s/l. Plus, Quarter seemed quite popular too. The show is actually doing just fine without Steffy on screen lol. Lope don't need Steffy at all....the recent ratings proved that NO triangle actually got better ratings.:rofl

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Drangonfly @, 6/11/2021, 9:07AM (8 days ago) @Freya- one person liked this

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


I wonder who will be blamed this time? They should have just left Liam as the killer.

They really can't write for Liam without Steffy being involved? Lol.

Seems it's more a case of them having nothing to write for Steffy that doesn't involve Liam. This story was doing just fine without Steffy being stuck into it.

They should start writing Sinn's story now. But there isn't a whole lot to write for them now. They have no story besides being engaged and expecting a baby.

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 9:22AM (8 days ago) @Drangonfly

So much could be written for SINN that doesn't include the toxic duo but since they suck they keep using Steffy and Thomas to prop them. Pretty sickening

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kizilay, 6/11/2021, 11:52AM (8 days ago) @Freya

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


I wonder who will be blamed this time? They should have just left Liam as the killer.

They really can't write for Liam without Steffy being involved? Lol.

They never wrote huge storlyines for Brooke, Ridge or Taylor without the other 2 involved. Every time one of these 3 had separate storylines, it was short-lived. Unless Hope or Steffy is off screen, they are never going to get long and separated stories. I don't see that changing.

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KatieFan32, 6/11/2021, 5:07AM (9 days ago) @BBDownunder

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.

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BBDownunder, 6/11/2021, 5:32AM (9 days ago) @KatieFan32

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.

of course he will he is a saint like Hope

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 6:49AM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder- one person liked this

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope

That’s why the storyline was stupid liam won’t get convicted it was to make viewers forget he cheated yet again

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Lizzy54, 6/11/2021, 8:10AM (8 days ago) @Barbybo

I agree. This will have been Liams redemption in the end, no one will think of Tequila Night anymore.

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 9:49AM (8 days ago) @Lizzy54

I agree. This will have been Liams redemption in the end, no one will think of Tequila Night anymore.

Yup the story is to forget liam cheated on Hope ...I don’t see a gal wanted that looser at all, must be the spencer name and what he will inherit ...

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Lizzy54, 6/11/2021, 12:02PM (8 days ago) @Barbybo

I think neither Hope nor Steffy are after Liam´s money...at the moment it seems he doesn´t even have any as he is living in a cabin on his MIL´s property.

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pspcindy @, 6/11/2021, 9:03AM (8 days ago) @Barbybo

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope


That’s why the storyline was stupid liam won’t get convicted it was to make viewers forget he cheated yet again

Well I'm not forgetting. If it was the first or second time maybe I would but this loser has waffled so much to me he is beyond the pale. If Bell thinks this lame story washes away all Liam has done, he's wrong Too bad Steffy and Hope are totally blind to the man Liam really is.

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 9:46AM (8 days ago) @pspcindy

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope


That’s why the storyline was stupid liam won’t get convicted it was to make viewers forget he cheated yet again


Well I'm not forgetting. If it was the first or second time maybe I would but this loser has waffled so much to me he is beyond the pale. If Bell thinks this lame story washes away all Liam has done, he's wrong Too bad Steffy and Hope are totally blind to the man Liam really is.

Yet with some it’s allways poor wuddle liam and whoe is me Hope ...to me liam is a weirdo period ...jmo

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IW, 6/11/2021, 8:53AM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder- 5 people liked this[OO]

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope

No, he is not. And Hope is no saint either. But compared to Steffy and Thomas, they sure look like decent human beings. This storyline proves it. Liam went to the police and took full responsability, Hope encouraged it and is supporting his decision. Meanwhile, Thomas is still lying to the police about Rick and Emma, Steffy is still covering her mother and lying about how her cousin died. It tells me all I need to know

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 9:54AM (8 days ago) @IW

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope


No, he is not. And Hope is no saint either. But compared to Steffy and Thomas, they sure look like decent human beings. This storyline proves it. Liam went to the police and took full responsability, Hope encouraged it and is supporting his decision. Meanwhile, Thomas is still lying to the police about Rick and Emma, Steffy is still covering her mother and lying about how her cousin died. It tells me all I need to know

Guess they will show liam cheating every once in a while cause some think it’s Ho hum it’s just liam ......I don’t get why she can’t get a decent guy like Finn, she’s lives with mommy she don’t need the jerk..

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Viola, 6/11/2021, 3:10PM (8 days ago) @IW

I think Liam will be found innocent and end up out of jail.


of course he will he is a saint like Hope


No, he is not. And Hope is no saint either. But compared to Steffy and Thomas, they sure look like decent human beings. This storyline proves it. Liam went to the police and took full responsability, Hope encouraged it and is supporting his decision. Meanwhile, Thomas is still lying to the police about Rick and Emma, Steffy is still covering her mother and lying about how her cousin died. It tells me all I need to know

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BellaSole, 6/12/2021, 7:29PM (7 days ago) @BBDownunder

He's no saint, but he's also no murderer. He's not macho, but he's also no wimp. I don't know for sure what he is. An imperfect human being. I guess that's why I relate to him so much.

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 6:46AM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

The life without liam is all baloney ...anyone buying this ....doubt it

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xenalwless, 6/11/2021, 7:33AM (8 days ago) @Barbybo

I believe it for Steffy since she already has before, many times

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Barbybo, 6/11/2021, 9:51AM (8 days ago) @Barbybo

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


The life without liam is all baloney ...anyone buying this ....doubt it

Oh sorry I meant the two gals think Liam will be convicted....and they won’t have him...Steffys git the good doc and Hope lives with mommy still a child ..so both would be fine if the liam got ten years ..but it’s baloney does anyone believe he gets convicted ..the story is now boreing

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msbmorrow, 6/11/2021, 9:15AM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed - And we know Liam will be set free and never go to trial
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation. - Someone finds out how Vinny died and now they in danger girl.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam. Maybe they will bond over losing the father of their daughters

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longtimerfan, 6/11/2021, 2:17PM (8 days ago) @BBDownunder

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.

So Liam has already been in jail for 2 weeks and he is still in jail in 2-3 weeks from now? So much for him being released after less than one day. He has already done more jail time than any other character who's done worse than him lol

The unexpected revelation better be very unexpected and shocking. And not a drug deal gone bad, which would be the most expected, unsoapy outcome.

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BellaSole, 6/11/2021, 3:43PM (8 days ago) @longtimerfan

I agree about the resolution. A drug deal gone bad would be so boring. Just awful. Unless Finn was the doctor supplying the drugs, but I don't think that will happen.

I think the Vinny mystery has been moving along just fine without Steffy. Hope and Liam don't need any propping, but naturally, other people are involved in their story. It's like that with all the SLs.

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apbas88 @, 6/11/2021, 4:36PM (8 days ago) @longtimerfan

- The real truth of Vinny's death is revealed
- An unexpected revelation turns into a dangerous situation.
- Steffy and Hope realize they may have a life without Liam.


So Liam has already been in jail for 2 weeks and he is still in jail in 2-3 weeks from now? So much for him being released after less than one day. He has already done more jail time than any other character who's done worse than him lol

The unexpected revelation better be very unexpected and shocking. And not a drug deal gone bad, which would be the most expected, unsoapy outcome.

According to the show Liam has been in jail 1 week starting when he was arrested on June 2nd

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Lizzy54, 6/12/2021, 12:09AM (8 days ago) @apbas88

Then wouldn't it be time for a judge to decide if he has to stay or get out on bail?
Over here this would happen after two days latest.
It is not for Baker to decide.

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