"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich! (General)

DebSn, 1/13/2021, 3:47PM (7 days ago)

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

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"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Tiqui1999 @, 1/13/2021, 3:51PM (7 days ago) @DebSn- 2 people liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

I don't see the relevance. Liam left Steffy. Liam signed annulment papers the next morning. He wasn't in a marriage anymore So why does it matter what was going on with they got pregnant?

Here you have a married man, cheating with his ex when he hadn't even talked to his wife about what he was upset about. Not the same thing at all.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/13/2021, 3:55PM (7 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


I don't see the relevance. Liam left Steffy. Liam signed annulment papers the next morning. He wasn't in a marriage anymore So why does it matter what was going on with they got pregnant?

Here you have a married man, cheating with his ex when he hadn't even talked to his wife about what he was upset about. Not the same thing at all.


Liam cheated with his x , he’s ruined ...Hope knew what she was getting maybe she should tell him to keep a condom in his wallet for future spontaneous magical moments since she’s obviously going to over look his oopsies

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Viola, 1/13/2021, 4:01PM (7 days ago) @DebSn- 4 people liked this[O]

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

Hope didn't have a boyfriend. Steffy should use protection to avoid getting another paternity test.
Hope said "yes" when Liam asked for her hand and her plans were to be with Liam forever... Steffy had the same plans while being in a relationship with Finn? Incredible...

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/13/2021, 4:06PM (7 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Hope didn't have a boyfriend. Steffy should use protection to avoid getting another paternity test.
Hope said "yes" when Liam asked for her hand and her plans were to be with Liam forever... Steffy had the same plans while being in a relationship with Finn? Incredible...

Hope stashed liam in a cabin and worked him offering herself like a thanksgiving turkey dinner:lol Hope git engaged to a married liam three times ...,Hope could have used protection getting pregnent gave her a cherry on top

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Tiqui1999 @, 1/13/2021, 4:07PM (7 days ago) @Viola

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Hope didn't have a boyfriend. Steffy should use protection to avoid getting another paternity test.
Hope said "yes" when Liam asked for her hand and her plans were to be with Liam forever... Steffy had the same plans while being in a relationship with Finn? Incredible...

Exactly.

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Drangonfly @, 1/13/2021, 4:10PM (7 days ago) @DebSn- 4 people liked this[O]

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/13/2021, 4:13PM (7 days ago) @Drangonfly

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!

But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.

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Drangonfly @, 1/13/2021, 4:27PM (7 days ago) @Barbybo- 3 people liked this[O]

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.

Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/13/2021, 4:32PM (7 days ago) @Drangonfly

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.


Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.

Huh ? As far as I know it’s legal til court papers are filed .....it’s getting worse Hope git engaged to married guy three times is that sane?

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Drangonfly @, 1/13/2021, 4:54PM (7 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.


Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.


Huh ? As far as I know it’s legal til court papers are filed .....it’s getting worse Hope git engaged to married guy three times is that sane?

Like I said, "legal" is just semantics. The marriage was over.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Mariposaa, 1/14/2021, 9:29AM (6 days ago) @Barbybo

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.


Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.


Huh ? As far as I know it’s legal til court papers are filed .....it’s getting worse Hope git engaged to married guy three times is that sane?

All separated couples today who are still legally married are then cheating. Is that what you're saying?

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/14/2021, 9:59AM (6 days ago) @Mariposaa

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.


Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.


Huh ? As far as I know it’s legal til court papers are filed .....it’s getting worse Hope git engaged to married guy three times is that sane?


All separated couples today who are still legally married are then cheating. Is that what you're saying?

They weren’t legaly seperated the annulment was the only I paperwork filed ..these characters especially liam get engaged while still married three times ......the women date married men ...and Liam spawns baby while legaly married is worse, he leaves babies with a part time daddy who sits on mommys couch and sex with her every so often he’s disgusting ..how many babies he going to have while married ...still counting he’s just getting warmed up

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 1/14/2021, 11:14AM (6 days ago) @Mariposaa

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!


But Hope still got knocked up by a legaly married guy ...legal is legal.


Was it really the same, though? Liam wanted his marriage to Steffy to be over. He wanted to marry Hope. He proposed to her. The next morning he had the annulment papers filed. Calling it "legal" is just semantics. This is a completely different situation.


Huh ? As far as I know it’s legal til court papers are filed .....it’s getting worse Hope git engaged to married guy three times is that sane?


All separated couples today who are still legally married are then cheating. Is that what you're saying?

That condition has been argued before, yes.
Many, many times. :neutral
Can’t have it both ways

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"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

xenalwless, 1/15/2021, 8:43AM (5 days ago) @Mariposaa

Liam hadn't even begun the annulement procedure. Hadn't even filed or signed the paper he draw and sent to Steffy. He was still a very married man

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

DebSn, 1/13/2021, 8:47PM (7 days ago) @Drangonfly

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

PatriotGirl @, 1/13/2021, 8:56PM (7 days ago) @DebSn

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

No, it's not failing you at all. That's exactly what happened.:cool

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Drangonfly @, 1/13/2021, 9:01PM (7 days ago) @DebSn

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

Not sure what any of that has to do with my post. :neutral

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

DebSn, 1/16/2021, 7:41AM (5 days ago) @Drangonfly

It has to do with your post because you said Liam wanted his marriage to be over.

No, he did not until AFTER Wyatt unknowingly shared false information. Until that happened, Liam had decided he wanted his marriage with Steffy and had started the steps to reconcile. If Bill had't manipulated the situation, Liam would never been at Hope's that night. He would have been with his WIFE - Steffy.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/13/2021, 9:51PM (7 days ago) @DebSn

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

Yes and Hope knew it but she wanted him anyway so it’s coming back to bite her

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

hopeyougogirl, 1/13/2021, 10:17PM (7 days ago) @DebSn

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

That's not the whole truth. Shown on screen, Steffy had repeatedly told Liam that there's absolutely nothing going on between her and his father, but Liam chose to believe Bill's lie over Steffy's own words. Liam has completely lost all his trust in Steffy..in order for Leffy to even work, Liam has to be able to trust his wife above ALL OTHERS, but he chose not to believe her at her own words..that's the real issue with dysfunctional, broken Leffy. IMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/14/2021, 8:24AM (6 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.


That's not the whole truth. Shown on screen, Steffy had repeatedly told Liam that there's absolutely nothing going on between her and his father, but Liam chose to believe Bill's lie over Steffy's own words. Liam has completely lost all his trust in Steffy..in order for Leffy to even work, Liam has to be able to trust his wife above ALL OTHERS, but he chose not to believe her at her own words..that's the real issue with dysfunctional, broken Leffy. IMO.

Seems liam didn’t trust Hope, he thought she was kissing tom... why on earth would Hope trust liam after he sexed his x yet again she’s flakey

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DebSn, 1/16/2021, 7:42AM (5 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Not quite accurate. He believed what WYAT told him he saw - which was set up by Bill to look like something it was not.

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hopeyougogirl, 1/16/2021, 11:33AM (4 days ago) @DebSn

Not quite accurate. He believed what WYAT told him he saw - which was set up by Bill to look like something it was not.

Disagree. I know he believed Wyatt and that Bill set up a lie, but Steffy defended herself over and over to Liam that there was absolutely nothing going on between her and his father. Why didn't Liam simply believe Steffy? Why didn't he trust her at her own words? Leffy will never work if Liam the husband doesn't even trust Steffy the wife at her own words lol.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Mariposaa, 1/14/2021, 9:32AM (6 days ago) @DebSn

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.

It's Liam. He didn't trust the tramp. His fault.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

Barbybo, 1/14/2021, 9:35AM (6 days ago) @Mariposaa- one person liked this

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.


It's Liam. He didn't trust the tramp. His fault.

Liam didn’t trust Hope for sure he ran away when he saw the kiss, he did the same when he saw Wyatt and Steffy in bed but they had no sex ...he’s a idiot he runs away all the time he’s a mouse..he’s a horrible soap character it was embarrassing looking at him beg and sweat man up guy he looked like a 14 year old who lost his girlfriend gawd hard to watch anymore he ruined, I couldn’t believe Hope said anyone else, that’s like giving liam to go ahead but not with Steffy and next time use protection .Hopes a screwballl but mommy will take care of her and tell her to live with it .mommy is nuts ..

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Mariposaa, 1/14/2021, 3:42PM (6 days ago) @Barbybo

My memory must be failing me. I recall Liam sending Steffy dozens of white roses with a note regarding forgiveness and he planned to head over there. However, Bill manipulated Wyatt into thinking he and Steffy were actually involved (beyond the ONS)- which was not true, and Wyatt told Liam Bill and Steffy had not ended things, so Liam did not go reconcile with Steffy. He did not go back to Steffy based upon FALSE information and that is when he went and hooked up with Hope. Had Bill not manipulated Wyatt, and Wyatt had not told Liam the false information, Liam and Steffy would have reconciled.


It's Liam. He didn't trust the tramp. His fault.


Liam didn’t trust Hope for sure he ran away when he saw the kiss, he did the same when he saw Wyatt and Steffy in bed but they had no sex ...he’s a idiot he runs away all the time he’s a mouse..he’s a horrible soap character it was embarrassing looking at him beg and sweat man up guy he looked like a 14 year old who lost his girlfriend gawd hard to watch anymore he ruined, I couldn’t believe Hope said anyone else, that’s like giving liam to go ahead but not with Steffy and next time use protection .Hopes a screwballl but mommy will take care of her and tell her to live with it .mommy is nuts ..

Still doesn't change the fact Steffy's a tramp:neutral

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xenalwless, 1/15/2021, 8:49AM (5 days ago) @Mariposaa

He didn't trust Steffy. The absurdity is Steffy ever trusting him. That's the guy who let her take the fall for his screw up and her grandmother had to slap the truth out of him. Steffy has been written out of character ever since.She would never give him another thought or look after that, much less trust him.And not counting all the times he lied to her and cheated on her.Steffy is the one who has so many reasons to not trust him and yet bell has her on the Liam is a good , honest guy train, writing her completly out of character

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xenalwless, 1/15/2021, 8:45AM (5 days ago) @DebSn- one person liked this

True. And Lam signed and file the papers to start the procedure AFTER knocking Hope up.

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Tiqui1999 @, 1/13/2021, 4:20PM (7 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Not even close. Two completely different situations. Liam had already set in motion to end his marriage to Steffy...for guess what...cheating and needing a paternity test to know who the father of her baby was. Now, that is rich!

Too rich, in fact.

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Mariposaa, 1/14/2021, 9:31AM (6 days ago) @DebSn

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

Hope is a hypocrite, yes. But not matter how y'all try to spin it. Liam left his wife for boinking his dad. He was separated. Two different situations.

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Barbybo, 1/14/2021, 9:33AM (6 days ago) @Mariposaa- one person liked this

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Hope is a hypocrite, yes. But not matter how y'all try to spin it. Liam left his wife for boinking his dad. He was separated. Two different situations.

But liams the cheater now and Hopes the doormat

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Mariposaa, 1/14/2021, 3:43PM (6 days ago) @Barbybo

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!


Hope is a hypocrite, yes. But not matter how y'all try to spin it. Liam left his wife for boinking his dad. He was separated. Two different situations.


But liams the cheater now and Hopes the doormat

Yes, I agree. Now Sinn are perfect doormats. The pretty kind

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MegsMom, 1/16/2021, 7:55AM (5 days ago) @DebSn

Yes Hope, it was a concern - to the EXACT same extent it was the night you slept with Liam and got pregnant. What a hypocrite!

Liam doesn't believe in birth control, obviously. That doesn't make Hope a hypocrite. It just makes her foolish for ever believing Liam can keep it zipped around Steffy. However, it doesn't make Steffy appear any brighter either.

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xenalwless, 1/16/2021, 8:00AM (5 days ago) @MegsMom

Steffy spent years without even looking at another guy no matter what.
Steffy spent years alone, no man, no sex
Steffy did absolutly nothing to lope since the gondola.The stage kiss, Lope were broken up
This ons, Liam used giving kelly her family back

Steffy is flawed , has weaknesses but lope have done to her way more than she ever did to them and always fail on their own.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

MegsMom, 1/16/2021, 11:53AM (4 days ago) @xenalwless

Steffy spent years without even looking at another guy no matter what.
Steffy spent years alone, no man, no sex
Steffy did absolutly nothing to lope since the gondola.The stage kiss, Lope were broken up
This ons, Liam used giving kelly her family back

Steffy is flawed , has weaknesses but lope have done to her way more than she ever did to them and always fail on their own.

Sorry, but I have foto disagree. What about Cabo when she encouraged her brother to get a virgin Hope drunk and rape her? All because she was terrified Liam would find out Hope was there. Or when she turned up at Hope's wedding, begging Liam to reunite with her rather than marry Hope because she could have a family again. And Steffy was alone because she chose to be alone. She had fertility problems, so she ran off to Paris. As for other men, I'd say she more than made up for earlier years of just Liam with her trysts with Liam's Dad and time spent with Liam's brother. One thing you have to say about Steffy, she doesn't do things in half measure. She did one better than Hope, and went for the Spencer trifecta. :lol

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Mariposaa, 1/17/2021, 10:24AM (3 days ago) @MegsMom

Steffy spent years without even looking at another guy no matter what.
Steffy spent years alone, no man, no sex
Steffy did absolutly nothing to lope since the gondola.The stage kiss, Lope were broken up
This ons, Liam used giving kelly her family back

Steffy is flawed , has weaknesses but lope have done to her way more than she ever did to them and always fail on their own.


Sorry, but I have foto disagree. What about Cabo when she encouraged her brother to get a virgin Hope drunk and rape her? All because she was terrified Liam would find out Hope was there. Or when she turned up at Hope's wedding, begging Liam to reunite with her rather than marry Hope because she could have a family again. And Steffy was alone because she chose to be alone. She had fertility problems, so she ran off to Paris. As for other men, I'd say she more than made up for earlier years of just Liam with her trysts with Liam's Dad and time spent with Liam's brother. One thing you have to say about Steffy, she doesn't do things in half measure. She did one better than Hope, and went for the Spencer trifecta. :lol

And If Finn's a spencer:whistle sis definitely likes the Spencer stick. She is better than Hope for sure. Way better. :cool

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xenalwless, 1/17/2021, 11:03AM (3 days ago) @MegsMom

Cabo?Steam were married and no she sure never pushed her brother to rape anyone.
Steffy didn't beg liam to return to her. She just told him that she could have children again , he rejected her, she left him alone.
Again Steffy did absolutly nothing to lope since the gondola.
Make up?Steffy spent years without even looking at another man, no matter what liam did, till he broke her leading to the ons with Bill.And Liam told her on the phone to stop calling her and get a life.So no she had nothing to make up for.
And yes Liam broke her leading to the still ons

Liam knew Sally stole from Steffy’s company costing them millions in profits

Liam put Sally before Steffy’s wishes that he not get involved with her issues with Bill. Liam told Steffy, his wife, that what he did with Sally was none of her businessShe should have kicked him to the curb right there and then.

ON HIS DEATH BED, he kissed the woman who he had an emotional affair with instead of calling out for his wife, instead of talking about his wife, instead of telling the other woman he loved his wife. She should have divorced him when she heard him confess he kissed another woman on his death bed.

Liam told Steffy in a voice mail to stop bothering him, he is not returning to her and for her to get a life. She did.

Liam did take Steffy to her breaking point regarding his death bed kiss with the woman he put before his wife. Steffy didn’t seek out Bill, Bill showed up and Steffy told him she wanted to be alone. Bill said he wanted to be there for her. They talked and she cried her heart out over her husband not only putting Sally before her for months, but kissed her on what he thought was his death bed. She should have sent her husband divorce papers after she left, and not looked back, or cried another tear regarding him and his selfishness.

"I take it safety was not a concern that night" - too rich!

MegsMom, 1/18/2021, 7:30AM (3 days ago) @xenalwless

The point I was trying g to make is that Steffy interferred with Hope many times. She did encourage Thomas to keep plying Hope with booze and to seal the deal, even going as far as getting Bill to send an engagement ring. If you want to just focus on weddings, how about Steffy taking Liam out the night before his wedding to Hope, getting him drunk as a skunk, knowing full well what shape he'd be in for his wedding day. Or how she showed up in Italy on Hope and Liam's wedding day and proceeded to make out with him in the hope of getting him to change his mind? Then there was that impromptu wedding set up by Brooke when Steffy showed up and whispered into Liam's ear that she was pregnant? Then the time she showed up at the wedding to let him know her fertility problems were over. The common thread in each of these manipulations is that Steffy did something to successfully prevent Hope and Liam getting married. In the case of the wedding in Italy, there was a ceremony but because of Steffy's seduction efforts being taped, the marriage ended up being invalidated. So sorry, but Steffy's ambush mountain top wedding was just the tip of the iceberg in the lengths she went to for snagging Liam and interferring in Hope's life. That's not taking away any blame on Liam, but Steffy was the instigator in each scenario.

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