2 decent men fighting over ZOE? (General)

by rain4 @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 12:48AM (12 days ago)
edited by rain4, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 1:04AM

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

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2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by Freya, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 4:30AM (12 days ago) @ rain4
edited by Freya, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 5:21AM

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!


How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvement with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough.

I'm not a Zoe fan but she had no control over what her father did and if Flo gets to have a love story, so should Zoe. At least Zoe was protectng her father. Flo just did it for money. The thing is... the baby storyline is over and everyone has to move on. It doesn't apply anymore.

As for Steffy and Finn, I haven't seen them do anything to Liam and Hope. They've only been in the hospital. Bell said they would be having lots of scenes together. The previews I've seen show that Liam and Hope are the ones inserting themselves into Steffy's life and home. Liam was always going to be involved in anything Steffy did because they share a daughter and so they are still a family. Since the show returned, Liam's two scenes have been with Steffy while Hope is offscreen. That's what the writers always do. The only new thing is that Finn has been added to the mix as Steffy's love interest. I like him so far :love

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2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by Ozboldfan, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 4:36AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

i feel the same way about zoe as i do for flo. totally unrootable

2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by BuckyBoy, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 4:58AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

Zoe :love

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by KatieFan32, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 11:05AM (12 days ago) @ BuckyBoy

You've said it all Buckyboy. I don't care what anyone says. Zoe is a great addition to this show she is a breath of fresh air. And so is this upcoming triangle. It's a good thing that diversity is starting to be represented on this show. :wink

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by muppetfish @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 11:12AM (12 days ago) @ KatieFan32

You've said it all Buckyboy. I don't care what anyone says. Zoe is a great addition to this show she is a breath of fresh air. And so is this upcoming triangle. It's a good thing that diversity is starting to be represented on this show. :wink

Couldn't agree more!

2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by rain4 @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 1:42PM (11 days ago) @ BuckyBoy

What do you like about Zoe, out of curiosity?

Like I said the actress is pretty, but Bell had a lot of options for Zende and Carter. Dayzee, Maya, Nicole, Sasha. A recast for one of these characters. A new character.

I don't see anything likeable about her character. She came on the show as a psychotic stalker who stole a computer, sent death threats to a young teenager and badgered Xander until she wore him down. Her main storyline involved the kidnapping of a newbown. She was accessory after the fact from the very beginning, stopped Xander, Flo and Emma from telling the truth and let Steffy raise Hope and Liam's child for 9 months. She was doing it for herself and her new fancy wealthy life, in my opinion. Not for her father. Her next storyline did not redeem her character at all. She was hiding 2 vital informations from Thomas, and seeing how fast she fell out of love with Xander and Thomas, I can't see how she could pretend to be in love with them in the first place.

I am trying to see one positive thing about her that could attract men like Zende and Carter. But I see nothing. If soemone could enlighten me, maybe I will understand better. :idea

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by BuckyBoy, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 2:35PM (11 days ago) @ rain4

For me she didn't come off as bad as you paint her out to be. Flo and Reese I don't care about - but not because they did something to Hope (she's not interesting as a character), but because of them I was stuck with the stupid baby story for months and months and months.
I always hate it when they introduce a bunch of new characters and soon write them all out, like they were about to do to the new Spectras. I'm glad that Zoe is staying from the Emma/Xander/Zoe trio. I love the acting by Kiara Barnes (even though they took off her accent), she is beautiful and her character has many sides to her - she can be both evil and lovable and I think that brings depth into any character. Just look at dull Liam.
I'll take anything over another round of Hope/Liam/Steffy, so I'm very excited about the returns of Carter, Zende and the Avants.
So many characters on this show have done criminal acts and people still love them, so why not love Zoe, too?

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by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 5:59PM (11 days ago) @ BuckyBoy

For me she didn't come off as bad as you paint her out to be. Flo and Reese I don't care about - but not because they did something to Hope (she's not interesting as a character), but because of them I was stuck with the stupid baby story for months and months and months.
I always hate it when they introduce a bunch of new characters and soon write them all out, like they were about to do to the new Spectras. I'm glad that Zoe is staying from the Emma/Xander/Zoe trio. I love the acting by Kiara Barnes (even though they took off her accent), she is beautiful and her character has many sides to her - she can be both evil and lovable and I think that brings depth into any character. Just look at dull Liam.
I'll take anything over another round of Hope/Liam/Steffy, so I'm very excited about the returns of Carter, Zende and the Avants.
So many characters on this show have done criminal acts and people still love them, so why not love Zoe, too?

Your right Bucky I agree everybody skates except deacon and shelia I don’t know the old stories thou..but flo to me gotta go..jmo. I say give zoe a shot

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by KatieFan32, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 8:08AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

I disagree with your whole post.
Glad that Zoe's love life is getting explored. A new black triangle with Zoe, Carter, and Zende is coming I'll be watching it. May the best man win.

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by l.c @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 8:48AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester

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by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 9:53AM (12 days ago) @ l.c

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester

Zoe didn’t tell I don’t think you go to jail fir that.....the avants haven’t been on in ages ...I think Zoe’s here lets here her story...

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by q, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 10:01AM (12 days ago) @ l.c

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester

I agree. Bring back someone else. Zoe is boring and can't be trusted. She was supposedly so in love with Thomas and yet practically the next day she's flirting with Carter in the office. She didn't keep her mouth shut about Beth for her dad, she kept quiet because she wanted to keep the lifestyle she had at Forrestor. She's a cheap gold digger. Send her back to England.

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by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 10:03AM (12 days ago) @ q

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester


I agree. Bring back someone else. Zoe is boring and can't be trusted. She was supposedly so in love with Thomas and yet practically the next day she's flirting with Carter in the office. She didn't keep her mouth shut about Beth for her dad, she kept quiet because she wanted to keep the lifestyle she had at Forrestor. She's a cheap gold digger. Send her back to England.

Maya kept a huge secret, then transferred her own sister the baby mama....I did enjoy sasha cause she was little Naughtie ..but her dad was a real heel I never want the daddy back....I do like carter cause he’s decent

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by Brenda fan, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 11:19AM (12 days ago) @ l.c

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester

Maya is a man!

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by ShirleyB#1, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 11:35AM (12 days ago) @ Brenda fan

I hear you. Why not Nicole or Maya? Even Sasha would be a better option. She has history with Zende and Carter knows her. Zoe should be rotting in jail with her father, or stuck with Thomas. Certainly not front and center in a triangle and working at Firrester


Maya is a man!

Not any more..

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by Mariposaa, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 9:09AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

I don't get why she's still in the show. She brings no interest.

2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 9:49AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

Flo git wyatt she was much worse....I give zoe a pass nobody wants to be the one to jail daddy....besides Tom screwed her over....and the show needs variety so bring it on

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by pspcindy @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 10:13AM (12 days ago) @ rain4

Bell's habit of whitewashing criminals is tiresome.

Zoe is a criminal, at least after the fact.

And Carter deserves better. Zende I thought was married to Nicole.

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by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 10:16AM (12 days ago) @ pspcindy

Bell's habit of whitewashing criminals is tiresome.

Zoe is a criminal, at least after the fact.

And Carter deserves better. Zende I thought was married to Nicole.

Zoe’s not a criminal...how many knew taylor shot Bill almost everyone they didn’t tell.....Bill broke deacon out of jail by bribe he’s not in jail....as far as I know flo deserves the big house jail for ten years or so..I like carter he gets no aurtime ..hey Brookes single soon he could sex her up she’s allways hot to trot and he would get airtime..guy needs a story and to take his shirt off ...alot

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by rain4 @, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 1:52PM (11 days ago) @ pspcindy

Why the hell would Zende trade a sweetheart like Nicole for an evil-minded criminal like Zoe? Color me confused. They better come up with a long and precise explanation to why Nicole and Zende's marriage fell apart. When they left the show in 2017, they were madly in love with each other and very happy. I can't think of one reason why they aren't together anymore, let alone why he would be interested in Zoe. What a huge downgrade .

Carter is single since 2014. He is a honest and loyal person. He has had many opportunities to try to woo a lot of women, outside of Maya. He had scenes with Nicole and Sasha. Sally and Steffy work with him and have been single for a long time. He has never shown a bit of interest in any of them. But all of a sudden he shows interest in ZOE. Carter was there when Hope and Liam signed the annulment papers. He officiated Thomas and Hope's wedding. He was there with Flo and Reese, when Steffy signed the documents and adopted the baby. He KNOWS Zoe knew the truth all along and perpetuated the lie until she got caught. But she is the one he is going to fall in love with. GMAB

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by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 2:39PM (11 days ago) @ rain4

Why the hell would Zende trade a sweetheart like Nicole for an evil-minded criminal like Zoe? Color me confused. They better come up with a long and precise explanation to why Nicole and Zende's marriage fell apart. When they left the show in 2017, they were madly in love with each other and very happy. I can't think of one reason why they aren't together anymore, let alone why he would be interested in Zoe. What a huge downgrade .

Carter is single since 2014. He is a honest and loyal person. He has had many opportunities to try to woo a lot of women, outside of Maya. He had scenes with Nicole and Sasha. Sally and Steffy work with him and have been single for a long time. He has never shown a bit of interest in any of them. But all of a sudden he shows interest in ZOE. Carter was there when Hope and Liam signed the annulment papers. He officiated Thomas and Hope's wedding. He was there with Flo and Reese, when Steffy signed the documents and adopted the baby. He KNOWS Zoe knew the truth all along and perpetuated the lie until she got caught. But she is the one he is going to fall in love with. GMAB

Maybe nicole and rick had sex ....sounds plausible

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by FataMorgana, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 5:04PM (11 days ago) @ rain4

We don't know what happened between Zende and Nicole, so I won't assume Nicole was/is perfect. As a matter of fact I thought she was annoying in their last storyline.

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by hopeyougogirl, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 2:08PM (11 days ago) @ rain4

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

I never cared for Zoe as she was introduced as a shady character. And from what I've seen she isn't popular..her triangle won't generate interest. It will likely be a fail similar to Wyatt's triangle.

Why waste two men on her? I don't get it. Her character is useless/worthless IMO.

2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by Barbybo, Saturday, August 01, 2020, 2:41PM (11 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke


I never cared for Zoe as she was introduced as a shady character. And from what I've seen she isn't popular..her triangle won't generate interest. It will likely be a fail similar to Wyatt's triangle.

Why waste two men on her? I don't get it. Her character is useless/worthless IMO.

Show needs variety I think it will be great...I kinda like zoe now...jmo

2 decent men fighting over ZOE?

by Lea, Monday, August 03, 2020, 12:12AM (10 days ago) @ rain4

:surprised

I wished I was hallucinating, but this is what the previews say!

How can Bell seriously put her character in the middle of a love triangle, especially with 2 decent men like Zende and Carter, and so shortly after her involvment with Reese? The actress who plays Zoe is pretty (though I certainly prefered Nicole and Sasha) but what is there to like about her character?

The character was basically introduced as a villain. Her boyfriend had a negative opinion about her and moved to another continent to get away from her. She followed him from London to LA, in order to stalk him. Then she threatened to murder Emma several times simply because she was dating the boyfriend who left her. She stole Sally's computer, framed her for the death threats and lied to everyone until she got caught by Katie and Thorne. Then she sneaked into Hope's fashion show, conned Charlie, disguised herself and stole Emma's showstopper. She stalked Xander for months, bad-mouthed Emma, used her sexuality to sleep with him. Instead of paying for her despicable actions, she got rewarded when Emma kicked him to the curb and let her have him.

She was involved in the Beth deception since almost the beginning. The only difference with Flo is she didn't sign any papers, but her role in the perpetuation of this atrocious lie is NO DIFFERENT from Flo. She covered it up since the beginning. She knocked Flo out when she took her phone and was trying to call him. She stopped Xander and Emma from spilling the beans several times, and she wasn't even feeling guilty about it. She wasn't thinking about Hope Liam and Steffy. She only thought about herself, about her career at Forrester if the truth came out. She let grieving parents think their daughter was dead for 8 months, knowing the baby was alive and fine. Even worse, she played a major role in Emma's death. When she learnt Emma was on her way to tell Hope, she franctically phoned Thomas and begged him to stop Emma by all means. She never showed remorse about any of that. As for her relationship with Thomas, she was using him as much as he was using her. She started dating him so she could live in Vinny's apartment. Later she accepted a job at FC from Steffy and agreed to spy on him for her. She blamed Thomas for everything, even if she was using him and keeping her own secrets from him.

I also have a problem with how quickly she moves on from her relationship. Xander was supposedly her great love. She tracked him down accross the world and reverted to manipulations in order to be with him. Seeing how quickly she got over him when he left her and how fast she became infatuated with Thomas, she couldn't love Xander that much. After the disastrous wedding, she moved on from Thomas in a heartbeat as well. 3 episodes later, she was working at Forrester, all smiling and discussing with Flo like nothing happened. Something is seriously wrong with her.

Carter and Zende aren't perfect, but for me they have always been presented as honest, nice people. Outside of 2 rounds of waffling between the Avant sisters, Zende played a good guy. Carter has been on the show for 7 years and even if he made a play for a married Maya and messed up a few legal documents, he is supposed to be a decent person too. If there is really a rivalry between them, I wonder who is going to turn into the bad guy. My bet is it will be Carter. But cannot understand how guys like them could possibly find Zoe worth fighting over, after everything she has done in (only) 2 years. They could have easily hired a new woman or brought back Nicole, Sasha or even Dayzee or Maya. Thomas already showed interest in both Sasha and Nicole. Carter was engaged to Maya and knows Nicole very well. Zende has history with both women. Why Zoe? Why??? :cry

I could start another comment to explain how frustrated I am that Steffy and Finn are going to be right in the middle of Hope and Liam's marriage/Family, but I stop for today. The thoughts of Flo being the great love of Wyatt's life and now Carter and Zende battling for a woman like Zoe are bad enough. :puke

I have no sympathy for Zoe either. But if they intend to keep her, I think they should have kept Xander for her. He is an Avant, they had a backstory and really seemed in love. I'll have to see her and Zende if they work well. I don't want Carter with her.

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