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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency (General)

candycpw, 7/31/2020, 1:44PM (318 days ago)

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

Barbybo, 7/31/2020, 1:47PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 1:48PM (318 days ago) @Barbybo

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..

He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

Barbybo, 7/31/2020, 1:50PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.

O.k I will ff slowly

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 2:08PM (318 days ago) @Barbybo

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


O.k I will ff slowly

:lol

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 7/31/2020, 6:34PM (318 days ago) @Barbybo

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


O.k I will ff slowly

You are hilarious :lol

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PatriotGirl @, 7/31/2020, 2:12PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.

I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 2:21PM (318 days ago) @PatriotGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.

Me too. And the beard, way to stragley(sp). :puke

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 2:26PM (318 days ago) @PatriotGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.

I was trying to be diplomatic. :oh

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 7/31/2020, 7:20PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


I was trying to be diplomatic. :oh

Bless you. I have to refrain from saying anything about his 'new look' 'cause I couldn't be diplomatic. :-D

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Barbybo, 8/1/2020, 10:20AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


I was trying to be diplomatic. :oh


Bless you. I have to refrain from saying anything about his 'new look' 'cause I couldn't be diplomatic. :-D

O.k guys I ff very slowly I saw nothing much difference maybe more duck dynasty look, but still had the duh look...

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:12PM (318 days ago) @PatriotGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.

He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.

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Finn’s proposal: I’ve always had an idea in my head of the perfect woman for me. She’s not a perfect woman but she’s perfect for me. You’re everything I could ever dreamed of and then some.

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hopeyougogirl, 7/31/2020, 3:16PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.

Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:25PM (318 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol

I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol

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Finn’s proposal: I’ve always had an idea in my head of the perfect woman for me. She’s not a perfect woman but she’s perfect for me. You’re everything I could ever dreamed of and then some.

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PatriotGirl @, 7/31/2020, 3:26PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol

:gasp :lol

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:30PM (318 days ago) @PatriotGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


:gasp :lol

:lol

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Finn’s proposal: I’ve always had an idea in my head of the perfect woman for me. She’s not a perfect woman but she’s perfect for me. You’re everything I could ever dreamed of and then some.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 7/31/2020, 6:33PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


:gasp :lol


:lol

Killin me... :lol

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hopeyougogirl, 7/31/2020, 3:30PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol

I'll take DD. :-D

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:33PM (318 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D

Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol

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Finn’s proposal: I’ve always had an idea in my head of the perfect woman for me. She’s not a perfect woman but she’s perfect for me. You’re everything I could ever dreamed of and then some.

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PatriotGirl @, 7/31/2020, 3:35PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol

Don't get greedy....:lol

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:38PM (318 days ago) @PatriotGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol


Don't get greedy....:lol

:lol

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 3:36PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol

You can have all the snacks you want!:dance2

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:39PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol


You can have all the snacks you want!:dance2

:-D

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[image]
Finn’s proposal: I’ve always had an idea in my head of the perfect woman for me. She’s not a perfect woman but she’s perfect for me. You’re everything I could ever dreamed of and then some.

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hopeyougogirl, 7/31/2020, 3:42PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol

That's greedy..I need MY snack. :-D

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Steffyfanatic, 7/31/2020, 3:44PM (318 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol


That's greedy..I need MY snack. :-D

:lol

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 3:48PM (318 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D


Who says I can’t have two snacks? :lol

:cool :lol

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 7/31/2020, 6:33PM (318 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


He seems to have a new look. Kind of sporting a lumberjack vibe. I wonder if hair and makeup is not allowed on site because of the virus.


I thought his hair looked awful. Long hair is not a good look for him IMO...I don't think the hair salons and barbershops are closed in LA right now.


He don’t look good with that beard and longer hair like Thomas do. Thomas looking like a snack. I can’t wait to see Matt back.


Thomas is not my type of "snack". You enjoy your "snack". :lol


I sure will enjoy it. Finger licking good. :lol


I'll take DD. :-D

Dang. We agree again. :lol

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 1:51PM (318 days ago) @Barbybo

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..

:lol

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 2:09PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..


:lol

Barb and I disagree on everything but she's a hoot! :lol

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"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Lope2.0, 7/31/2020, 4:44PM (318 days ago) @Barbybo

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Liams on today thanks for heads up I git my ff ready he’s a creep..

Not just today.
My advice for you: Get ready to fast forward Monday & Tuesday next week and 2/3 of the future episodes, then. He is one of the leading man, the biggest Awarded actor and Bell sees him as a hero and rescuer . Steffy has wanted to be with him for a decade and he will be majorly involved in her upcoming story. I wanted better angst than Steffy for Lope, but is what it is. Bell has decided. I must accept that Steffy will always be in Hope and Liam's life. .

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Ilovebizzie, 7/31/2020, 8:17PM (318 days ago) @Lope2.0

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:23PM (318 days ago) @Ilovebizzie

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.

Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:33PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.

Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

Lope2.0, 7/31/2020, 8:38PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.

Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:40PM (318 days ago) @Lope2.0

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO

I don't care what Hope would do. He's out of her league. Aint happening!

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q, 8/1/2020, 10:15AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


I don't care what Hope would do. He's out of her league. Aint happening!

True. Hope doesn't play in the minor leagues. She's strictly major league.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 11:06AM (317 days ago) @Lope2.0

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO

Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 11:09AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle

AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 11:55AM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.

The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 12:08PM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.


The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.

Douglas's family members don't even have a problem with it. They're fine with him living with Hope right now. Steffy told him to.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 12:20PM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.


The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.


Douglas's family members don't even have a problem with it. They're fine with him living with Hope right now. Steffy told him to.

Ridge had a big problem with Hope going after custody of Douglas and Brooke having adoption papers drawn up. It broke Bridge up. Just because they changed their minds and are fine with Douglas living with Hope doesn’t mean her behavior wasn’t despicable in trying to take him away from Thomas.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 12:35PM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.


The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.


Douglas's family members don't even have a problem with it. They're fine with him living with Hope right now. Steffy told him to.


Ridge had a big problem with Hope going after custody of Douglas and Brooke having adoption papers drawn up. It broke Bridge up. Just because they changed their minds and are fine with Douglas living with Hope doesn’t mean her behavior wasn’t despicable in trying to take him away from Thomas.

Ridge had such a problem with it that he let Douglas stay at Brooke's house for weeks.

They changed their minds because they FINALLY realized that Hope was right about Thomas all along.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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ShirleyB#1, 8/1/2020, 2:47PM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.


The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.


Douglas's family members don't even have a problem with it. They're fine with him living with Hope right now. Steffy told him to.


Ridge had a big problem with Hope going after custody of Douglas and Brooke having adoption papers drawn up. It broke Bridge up. Just because they changed their minds and are fine with Douglas living with Hope doesn’t mean her behavior wasn’t despicable in trying to take him away from Thomas.

Ridge doesn't remember taking the child from Thomas and pretending he was the father? how is what Hope did more despicable than what Thomas' own father did to him?

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 3:20PM (317 days ago) @ShirleyB#1

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


AKA looking out for a kid whose father was using him as a pawn in a sick stalking scheme during the worst time of his life, right after his mother died while the little kid's actual family did absolutely nothing to protect him.


The end doesn’t justify the means. Not even for Hope.


Douglas's family members don't even have a problem with it. They're fine with him living with Hope right now. Steffy told him to.


Ridge had a big problem with Hope going after custody of Douglas and Brooke having adoption papers drawn up. It broke Bridge up. Just because they changed their minds and are fine with Douglas living with Hope doesn’t mean her behavior wasn’t despicable in trying to take him away from Thomas.


Ridge doesn't remember taking the child from Thomas and pretending he was the father? how is what Hope did more despicable than what Thomas' own father did to him?

What Ridge did was wrong. That still doesn't excuse Hope.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:31AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle

An exaggeration? Why did she push him away from her causing him to fall? She'd be pretty strong if she coukd pick him up and toss him. Did she know that was a vat of acid. No. If someone is trying to force himself on a woman I think she should push him away and run not hang around to see where the sleeze landed.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 11:47AM (317 days ago) @q

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


An exaggeration? Why did she push him away from her causing him to fall? She'd be pretty strong if she coukd pick him up and toss him. Did she know that was a vat of acid. No. If someone is trying to force himself on a woman I think she should push him away and run not hang around to see where the sleeze landed.

Exactly.

I guess Hope was supposed to just stand there cornered and let Thomas kiss her when she didn't want him to. Apparently trying to get away from someone that is assaulting you is a crime.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 11:53AM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


An exaggeration? Why did she push him away from her causing him to fall? She'd be pretty strong if she coukd pick him up and toss him. Did she know that was a vat of acid. No. If someone is trying to force himself on a woman I think she should push him away and run not hang around to see where the sleeze landed.


Exactly.

I guess Hope was supposed to just stand there cornered and let Thomas kiss her when she didn't want him to. Apparently trying to get away from someone that is assaulting you is a crime.

That's certainly an interesting way to interpret the post. :neutral

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There is no Hope for this show :wink

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 11:40AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle

Yes, sweet gentle Hope.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 11:49AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


Yes, sweet gentle Hope.

She sure is. She's so sweet that Steffy told her little nephew to go live with her and that she is his Mommy.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 11:56AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.


Let the games begin!

Maybe Hope can manipulate them apart. That would be fun to watch.


Dr. Finn is out of Hope's league.


Maybe Hope will contact Bill, hide Fin's phone and make him think Steffy doesn't want him, and have Steffy trapped in a gondola while she throws herself at Finn. How sweet karma it would be for Steffy. But Hope won't to that. She isn't a conniving,, violent, manipulative interloper. And she would never sink that low to be a man's second choice. That's Steffy's MO


Yeah, she just secretly goes to lawyers to find ways to take full custody of other people’s kids without telling them. Pretends to want the father to get him to sign over his child. Tosses him over a railing and leaves him to die in a vat of acid. Nothing conniving, violent or manipulative about any of that. :whistle


Yes, sweet gentle Hope.

Such a kind angel. :rofl

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Ilovebizzie, 8/1/2020, 12:49AM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

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Lope2.0, 7/31/2020, 8:28PM (318 days ago) @Ilovebizzie

That’s all true but the good news is, now there’s a hot new guy on the show to be a shoulder for Hope to lean on when most likely Liam and Steffy start their flirty/cheating stuff again.

Still too soon for me to say if this guy is viable or not, or if the actor can act. I'll have to see him for a few weeks, first. I will never want Hope with Wyatt, that's for sure. I have mixed feelings about Thomas, but I don't see how he and Hope can ever be a couple again. I don't see Hope paired with Carter at all. Bill is too old, so it wouldn't surprise me if Finn and Hope hook up. Obviously not now or in the coming weeks, but in the coming months or years, that's most certainly a possibility. As long as Hope doesn't chase this guy while he is with Steffy the way Steffy targetted Oliver and Liam when threy first got with Hope, I don't mind it. :-D

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Ilovebizzie, 8/1/2020, 12:52AM (318 days ago) @Lope2.0

I don’t ever want Hope with Wyatt or Thomas, both characters are fails for me.

Bill I would accept but I don’t see it happening.

Carter was someone I would accept for Hope, he’s hot.

I think Finn is going to end up with Hope and I’m all in for it. I don’t believe for a minute that Steffy will ever give another guy a chance, or that Bell is serious about “Sinn”, it’s going to be back to Leffy, I predict.

So Hope and Finn can commiserate and fall in love. They’ll make a pretty couple.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 9:41AM (317 days ago) @Ilovebizzie

I don’t ever want Hope with Wyatt or Thomas, both characters are fails for me.

Bill I would accept but I don’t see it happening.

Carter was someone I would accept for Hope, he’s hot.

I think Finn is going to end up with Hope and I’m all in for it. I don’t believe for a minute that Steffy will ever give another guy a chance, or that Bell is serious about “Sinn”, it’s going to be back to Leffy, I predict.

So Hope and Finn can commiserate and fall in love. They’ll make a pretty couple.

Poor Finn. What a horrible fate that would be to be stuck with Hope. Only Liam deserves that misery.

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 10:28AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 10:44AM (317 days ago) @l.c

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy

Lol, Liam does not look blissfully happy to me. Matter of fact I think he's still in love with Steffy. Sure looked like it to me when he basically told her he didn't know what he would do if she would have died. And as far as Steffy goes, you can't get better than her. Hope certainly can NEVER compare to Steffy. Dr. Finn wouldn't give Hope a second look especially after seeing Steffy.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 10:53AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


Lol, Liam does not look blissfully happy to me. Matter of fact I think he's still in love with Steffy. Sure looked like it to me when he basically told her he didn't know what he would do if she would have died. And as far as Steffy goes, you can't get better than her. Hope certainly can NEVER compare to Steffy. Dr. Finn wouldn't give Hope a second look especially after seeing Steffy.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 10:53AM (317 days ago) @l.c

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy

Yes, misery. As soon as her dream life isn’t perfect again she will throw Liam away. . She’s been doing that for years so if anyone is hopeless, it’s Hope. Steffy has finally seen the light where Liam is concerned and is ready to move on with her life. Steffy deserves better than Liam....enter Dr. Finn.

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q, 8/1/2020, 10:55AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


Yes, misery. As soon as her dream life isn’t perfect again she will throw Liam away. . She’s been doing that for years so if anyone is hopeless, it’s Hope. Steffy has finally seen the light where Liam is concerned and is ready to move on with her life. Steffy deserves better than Liam....enter Dr. Finn.

Steffy has seen the light so many times she's blinded. Can't wait for her to explain her poster to Finn. Hopefully she will have it moved to Kelly's room.

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 11:30AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Seeing the light would mean rejecting Liam's offer to reunite with her and telling him she isn't an option. That didn't happen. Steffy hasn't seen the light. She and her brother came up with a scheme so she could have Liam for herself. It failed. Liam was not one bit interested and blissfully remarried Hope. She got rejected again. If Liam chose her instead of Hope, there'd be no Dr. Finn.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:32AM (317 days ago) @l.c

Seeing the light would mean rejecting Liam's offer to reunite with her and telling him she isn't an option. That didn't happen. Steffy hasn't seen the light. She and her brother came up with a scheme so she could have Liam for herself. It failed. Liam was not one bit interested and blissfully remarried Hope. She got rejected again. If Liam chose her instead of Hope, there'd be no Dr. Finn.

And no motorcycle accident.

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 12:02PM (317 days ago) @l.c

Seeing the light would mean rejecting Liam's offer to reunite with her and telling him she isn't an option. That didn't happen. Steffy hasn't seen the light. She and her brother came up with a scheme so she could have Liam for herself. It failed. Liam was not one bit interested and blissfully remarried Hope. She got rejected again. If Liam chose her instead of Hope, there'd be no Dr. Finn.

He sure kissed her back like he was interested. :lol If she was with Liam Bell wouldn’t have brought Dr. Finn for her. I’m so glad they aren’t together.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 12:27PM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Seeing the light would mean rejecting Liam's offer to reunite with her and telling him she isn't an option. That didn't happen. Steffy hasn't seen the light. She and her brother came up with a scheme so she could have Liam for herself. It failed. Liam was not one bit interested and blissfully remarried Hope. She got rejected again. If Liam chose her instead of Hope, there'd be no Dr. Finn.


He sure kissed her back like he was interested. :lol If she was with Liam Bell wouldn’t have brought Dr. Finn for her. I’m so glad they aren’t together.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 11:41AM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


Yes, misery. As soon as her dream life isn’t perfect again she will throw Liam away. . She’s been doing that for years so if anyone is hopeless, it’s Hope. Steffy has finally seen the light where Liam is concerned and is ready to move on with her life. Steffy deserves better than Liam....enter Dr. Finn.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:07AM (317 days ago) @l.c

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy

We disagree of course. "Better" certainly wouldn't be poor, frumpy, mopey, hopeless Hope! She is no step up from Steffy!:lol

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 12:05PM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


We disagree of course. "Better" certainly wouldn't be poor, frumpy, mopey, hopeless Hope! She is no step up from Steffy!:lol

Actually, Hope is quite a few steps down from Steffy. :-D

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 12:28PM (317 days ago) @PatriotGirl

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


We disagree of course. "Better" certainly wouldn't be poor, frumpy, mopey, hopeless Hope! She is no step up from Steffy!:lol


Actually, Hope is quite a few steps down from Steffy. :-D

My sentiments exactly! :-D

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Zaneygray, 8/2/2020, 12:41AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Misery? Accroding to Bell, he is blissfully happy to be with Hope. Steffy has often been miserable without Liam. Including when she was paired with Wyatt. Her dreams to be with Liam only ended when he recently maried Hope. One day Dr Finn will see the light and realize she is a hopeless case. I don't want him with Hope but he sure deserves a lot better than Steffy


We disagree of course. "Better" certainly wouldn't be poor, frumpy, mopey, hopeless Hope! She is no step up from Steffy!:lol


Actually, Hope is quite a few steps down from Steffy. :-D


My sentiments exactly! :-D

Steffy is the queen!

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Brenda fan, 8/2/2020, 12:39AM (317 days ago) @Ilovebizzie

I don’t ever want Hope with Wyatt or Thomas, both characters are fails for me.

Bill I would accept but I don’t see it happening.

Carter was someone I would accept for Hope, he’s hot.

I think Finn is going to end up with Hope and I’m all in for it. I don’t believe for a minute that Steffy will ever give another guy a chance, or that Bell is serious about “Sinn”, it’s going to be back to Leffy, I predict.

So Hope and Finn can commiserate and fall in love. They’ll make a pretty couple.

Wasn't that you posting a couple months ago, but hat Wyatt was a good man and you wanted him for Hope if Lope break up?

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 2:33PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 3:03PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)

He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 3:24PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)


He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!

Awesome post :cool :cool And exactly what happened

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 4:28PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)


He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!


Awesome post :cool :cool And exactly what happened

Thank you!:love

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 7/31/2020, 6:59PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)


He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!


Awesome post :cool :cool And exactly what happened

I agree! :cool

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 7/31/2020, 6:57PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)


He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!

Boggles the mind, doesn't it. I can't even. Am glad that you can!

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:35PM (318 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Meh. All the Spencer idiots have blinders on, when it comes to Steffy. Liam defended her after Aly's death and after she electrocuted, terrorized Ivy and violated a RO, shot Sheila. He forgave her almost instantly for sleeping with daddy. His opinion means nothing, he wasn't there, he didn't see what happened. I saw her ignoring pannels and speeding. She was reckless. And it doesn't wash her for her accident in Cabo, nor for riding a motorcycle while pregnant (after she promised him she wouldn't)


He's decent because he doesn't blame her for things that aren't her fault. He would be a real jerk if he did. Steffy wasn't speeding and it has never been stated that she was. And Steffy didn't electrocute Ivy. Ivy fell into that panel. Steffy didn't push her into it. Ivy was actually going after Steffy and when Steffy was trying to get her off she went into the panel. You know the same as when Hope shoved Thomas into the vat of supposed acid. And Aly was self defense. What was Steffy supposed to do? Let Aly have at her. GMAB!!!


Boggles the mind, doesn't it. I can't even. Am glad that you can!

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:45PM (318 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 7/31/2020, 10:28PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.

But not exactly the way you continue to post it. We will NEVER see the show the same way, and frankly, l.c, I'm not going to continue.

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 10:49PM (318 days ago) @EnuffAlready

But What is boggling your mind? And you can't even what? I don't understand this kind of comment, quite frankly. Is it referring to my post, something else? What part of the post? I don't read minds. Disagreeing with opinions is normal, but I don't see anything mind-boggling with 2 virewers have opposite points if view about a storyline or a character. Do you?

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 6:22AM (317 days ago) @l.c

But What is boggling your mind? And you can't even what? I don't understand this kind of comment, quite frankly. Is it referring to my post, something else? What part of the post? I don't read minds. Disagreeing with opinions is normal, but I don't see anything mind-boggling with 2 virewers have opposite points if view about a storyline or a character. Do you?

Disagreement is one thing, but it's challenging to have a discussion with anyone whose views are so entirely one sided and exaggerated - not for the sake of humor or hyperbole, but just in general. :neutral

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 10:10AM (317 days ago) @MsBold

But What is boggling your mind? And you can't even what? I don't understand this kind of comment, quite frankly. Is it referring to my post, something else? What part of the post? I don't read minds. Disagreeing with opinions is normal, but I don't see anything mind-boggling with 2 virewers have opposite points if view about a storyline or a character. Do you?


Disagreement is one thing, but it's challenging to have a discussion with anyone whose views are so entirely one sided and exaggerated - not for the sake of humor or hyperbole, but just in general. :neutral

THIS, MsB! I just can't with all the exaggerations. :cool

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 5:40AM (317 days ago) @l.c

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.

half of this incorrect:

- steffy didn't deliberatly push ivy into the panel, ivy was harrassing Steffy after Steffy said she should leave because it was a dangerous situation. Ivy didn't listen, smacked the phone out of steffy's hands and when steffy went to get it, ivy came after her again and that's when ivy fell into the panel

- Ivy got the RO because the fall off the stairs at the forrester mansion (it was shown ivy tripped on her suitcases) so steffy being there wasn't breaking a RO at all

- liam never confronted steffy abouthim finding wyatt and steffy asleep in bed. he ran and got abducted by quinn.

- she didn't lie about aly's death. She was in shock, shown to have some kind of ptsd where she couldn't remember everything. when she remembered, she told Thomas and when ivy started blackmailing her she told liam.

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aliceneversmarinedelterme, 8/1/2020, 6:15AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 6:58AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.


half of this incorrect:

- steffy didn't deliberatly push ivy into the panel, ivy was harrassing Steffy after Steffy said she should leave because it was a dangerous situation. Ivy didn't listen, smacked the phone out of steffy's hands and when steffy went to get it, ivy came after her again and that's when ivy fell into the panel

- Ivy got the RO because the fall off the stairs at the forrester mansion (it was shown ivy tripped on her suitcases) so steffy being there wasn't breaking a RO at all

- liam never confronted steffy abouthim finding wyatt and steffy asleep in bed. he ran and got abducted by quinn.

- she didn't lie about aly's death. She was in shock, shown to have some kind of ptsd where she couldn't remember everything. when she remembered, she told Thomas and when ivy started blackmailing her she told liam.

Thank you for the facts.

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 10:22AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 10:36AM (317 days ago) @l.c

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.

Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 10:46AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.

FACTS! I love facts. Don't like twisted versions of events. Thank you for the facts.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:23AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.


FACTS! I love facts. Don't like twisted versions of events. Thank you for the facts.

I don't either, candy.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:20AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.

Thank you AGAIN! ❤️

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:26AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.

Nothing was shown. :whistle

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 11:40AM (317 days ago) @q

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.


Nothing was shown. :whistle

They talked and fell asleep is what was shown.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:44AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.


Nothing was shown. :whistle


They talked and fell asleep is what was shown.

In each other's arms.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 11:44AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.


Nothing was shown. :whistle


They talked and fell asleep is what was shown.

Exactly and nothing more.

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ShirleyB#1, 8/1/2020, 3:10PM (317 days ago) @q

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.


Steffy wasn't pretending at all about Wyatt. She made it clear nothing would happen (nothing did) and that she still was in love with Liam. The Next day, Liam Came in and berated her but never mentioned what he saw the night before.


Nothing was shown. :whistle

isn't that when he asked her to leave her house and just leave his ring anywhere?

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 11:40AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

I see it differently. If I found my fiance half-naked in bed and cuddled with another person, I would react the same way. The same day Wyatt was proposing to Ivy. Whether they slept together or not, it was highly inappropriate. They spent the entire night in each other's arms, and she didn't bother to tell Liam the truth. One morning later, she was waffling with him on the beach and one week later, she was in bed with him with Liam's engagement ring. "Come back Liam, or I will marry your brother. Is that really what you want? Please come back!"

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FancyGirl, 8/1/2020, 12:13PM (317 days ago) @l.c

No fact here. Ivy filled the restraining order when Baker visited her at the hospital. Steffy violated it when she paid Ivy a surprise visit at Wyatt's house. Baker was going to arrest her when Liam convinced Ivy not to press charges.
As for the Statt snuggle, Steffy never came clean to Liam about that. She spend the entire night in bed with Wyatt wearing Liam's engagement ring and pretending she still wanted him. She deserved every words he told her.

Steffy absolutely caused Ivy's 3 accidents AND violated the restraining order. :lol

Lt. Baker was going to handcuff and arrest her. If Ivy had pressed charges, she would have been locked up for a very long time. She can thank Ivy for her freedom.

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 10:16AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

I never said she electrocuted her deliberately. But she did set up the entire situation when she blabbed Tivy's kiss to Wyatt, this is why Ivy confronted yet. She did provoke this accident and then she lied to Baker at the hospital
Ivy filled the RO after the first accident. Steffy broke it the very next day, Ivy hit her head and had a concussion. 2 weeks later, Ivy was leaving to Australia and Steffy had to get in her face and scare her. She fell down the stairs because of Steffy.
Liam called off the engagement the morning after Statt's snuggle. Steffy never told him about Wyatt coming to her bedroom shirtless and sneaking into his bed.
Being in shock about Aly's death is no excuse. She lied to Thorne. Baker questionned her 1 month after her death. He asked her what happened. Steffy told him Aly fell. She withheld what really happened.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:35AM (317 days ago) @l.c

I never said she electrocuted her deliberately. But she did set up the entire situation when she blabbed Tivy's kiss to Wyatt, this is why Ivy confronted yet. She did provoke this accident and then she lied to Baker at the hospital
Ivy filled the RO after the first accident. Steffy broke it the very next day, Ivy hit her head and had a concussion. 2 weeks later, Ivy was leaving to Australia and Steffy had to get in her face and scare her. She fell down the stairs because of Steffy.
Liam called off the engagement the morning after Statt's snuggle. Steffy never told him about Wyatt coming to her bedroom shirtless and sneaking into his bed.
Being in shock about Aly's death is no excuse. She lied to Thorne. Baker questionned her 1 month after her death. He asked her what happened. Steffy told him Aly fell. She withheld what really happened.

She sure wasn't in shock after the funeral when she wanted to go home and have sex.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:17AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.


half of this incorrect:

- steffy didn't deliberatly push ivy into the panel, ivy was harrassing Steffy after Steffy said she should leave because it was a dangerous situation. Ivy didn't listen, smacked the phone out of steffy's hands and when steffy went to get it, ivy came after her again and that's when ivy fell into the panel

- Ivy got the RO because the fall off the stairs at the forrester mansion (it was shown ivy tripped on her suitcases) so steffy being there wasn't breaking a RO at all

- liam never confronted steffy abouthim finding wyatt and steffy asleep in bed. he ran and got abducted by quinn.

- she didn't lie about aly's death. She was in shock, shown to have some kind of ptsd where she couldn't remember everything. when she remembered, she told Thomas and when ivy started blackmailing her she told liam.

Thanks, muppet! The exaggerations and fabrications get old, don't they? You have more patience with the crap than I do! :love

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:25AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.


half of this incorrect:

- steffy didn't deliberatly push ivy into the panel, ivy was harrassing Steffy after Steffy said she should leave because it was a dangerous situation. Ivy didn't listen, smacked the phone out of steffy's hands and when steffy went to get it, ivy came after her again and that's when ivy fell into the panel

- Ivy got the RO because the fall off the stairs at the forrester mansion (it was shown ivy tripped on her suitcases) so steffy being there wasn't breaking a RO at all

- liam never confronted steffy abouthim finding wyatt and steffy asleep in bed. he ran and got abducted by quinn.

- she didn't lie about aly's death. She was in shock, shown to have some kind of ptsd where she couldn't remember everything. when she remembered, she told Thomas and when ivy started blackmailing her she told liam.


Thanks, muppet! The exaggerations and fabrications get old, don't they? You have more patience with the crap than I do! :love

:cool I agree

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:37AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.


half of this incorrect:

- steffy didn't deliberatly push ivy into the panel, ivy was harrassing Steffy after Steffy said she should leave because it was a dangerous situation. Ivy didn't listen, smacked the phone out of steffy's hands and when steffy went to get it, ivy came after her again and that's when ivy fell into the panel

- Ivy got the RO because the fall off the stairs at the forrester mansion (it was shown ivy tripped on her suitcases) so steffy being there wasn't breaking a RO at all

- liam never confronted steffy abouthim finding wyatt and steffy asleep in bed. he ran and got abducted by quinn.

- she didn't lie about aly's death. She was in shock, shown to have some kind of ptsd where she couldn't remember everything. when she remembered, she told Thomas and when ivy started blackmailing her she told liam.


Thanks, muppet! The exaggerations and fabrications get old, don't they? You have more patience with the crap than I do! :love

What about the exaggerations on the other side? Shouldn't they be called out?

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ShirleyB#1, 8/1/2020, 3:05PM (317 days ago) @l.c

Everything I said happened on my screen. Sheila was shot by Steffy. Ivy was pushed against an electrical panel by Steffy after she blabbed Tivy's affair to Wyatt. Steffy broke a RO and harassed Ivy and broke her promise to Liam. Ivy fell down the stairs when Steffy broke the RO. She slept half-naked in bed with Wyatt and wouldn't come clean to Liam when he confronted her.. She lied to everyone about Aly's death and hid the evidence. It all happened.

that's exactly the way it was shown on my tv...

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:07PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 7:27PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 7/31/2020, 7:30PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!

Really gets old, doesn't it?

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:38PM (318 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


Really gets old, doesn't it?

It's just unbelievable.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 7:43PM (318 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


Really gets old, doesn't it?

It sure does and then some

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:37PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!

No she wasn't. Love the way things are twisted.

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:41PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

What did she do, then? Ivy didn't fall against the electrical panel all by herself. Steffy helped her a lot. And lied to the police.

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:39PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Then why did she lie to Lt. Baker when he questionned her? Why lie if she was innocent? This push was violent and was very similar to Taylor and Morgan's. And why did she continue to bully and harass Ivy until she broke a RO? She pushed Ivy against the panel and never paid for it. Maybe not intentionally, but she did, and she lied, and got away with it. And Liam condoned everything, as usual-

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:50PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Then why did she lie to Lt. Baker when he questionned her? Why lie if she was innocent? This push was violent and was very similar to Taylor and Morgan's. And why did she continue to bully and harass Ivy until she broke a RO? She pushed Ivy against the panel and never paid for it. Maybe not intentionally, but she did, and she lied, and got away with it. And Liam condoned everything, as usual-

Number 1, Steffy never pushed Ivy. If you watch Steffy was down and Ivy was basically on top of her and when Steffy pushed Ivy it was to get her off of her. Saying the push was violet is ridiculous. And talking about never paying for anything... Hope pushed Thomas into a vat of "acid". Brooke pushed Thomas off of a cliff. Bunch of lies coming from the precious Logan's about those incidents and I didn't see Big or Little Hypocrite paying for anything.

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:56PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:58PM (318 days ago) @l.c

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.

You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:42AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.

Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:44AM (317 days ago) @q

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.

What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:54AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?

Had she let Ivy alone and not harassed her Ivy would not have gone there.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:00PM (317 days ago) @q

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?


Had she let Ivy alone and not harassed her Ivy would not have gone there.

Not true. Ivy went to Steffy in the basement where the electrical panel was. No harassment and no restraining order then. Ivy just couldn’t leave after Steffy told her too.

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q, 8/1/2020, 12:04PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?


Had she let Ivy alone and not harassed her Ivy would not have gone there.


Not true. Ivy went to Steffy in the basement where the electrical panel was. No harassment and no restraining order then. Ivy just couldn’t leave after Steffy told her too.

Why should she? She was ticked off at Steffy. When does Steffy ever leave when she is asked to?

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:07PM (317 days ago) @q

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?


Had she let Ivy alone and not harassed her Ivy would not have gone there.


Not true. Ivy went to Steffy in the basement where the electrical panel was. No harassment and no restraining order then. Ivy just couldn’t leave after Steffy told her too.


Why should she? She was ticked off at Steffy. When does Steffy ever leave when she is asked to?

Why not. It was dangerous and she knew it.

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FancyGirl, 8/1/2020, 12:20PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?

The RO was filled because of the electrical panel.

2 episodes later, Steffy violated it and look what happened.

Baker was going to arrest her. Ivy saved her butt. She did it out of love for Liam, not for Steffy.

The fall down the stairs was a few weeks later.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:32PM (317 days ago) @FancyGirl

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.


What’s that have to do about the electrical panel?


The RO was filled because of the electrical panel.

2 episodes later, Steffy violated it and look what happened.

Baker was going to arrest her. Ivy saved her butt. She did it out of love for Liam, not for Steffy.

The fall down the stairs was a few weeks later.

Yes I know all of this I was just saying the RO had nothing to do with Ivy confronting Steffy in the basement where the electrical panels where. No restraining order at that time. That was my point. If Ivy left Steffy alone and waited to confront her she wouldn’t have been hospitalized. She knew it was dangerous to be there.

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 12:28PM (317 days ago) @q

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.

Not true. She broke it once when she went to wyatt's beach house to ask to drop the restraining order. Ivy dropped it after Liam asked, that's when Ivy went after Liam while he was with steffy and she still with Wyatt. Wyatt proposed in front of steam when Quinn stopped it and outed Ivy. That's when she was humiliated and tried to leave when she had her tumble down the stairs with steffy.

She was in the wrong to go to Ivy in the beach house, but facts are facts.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 8:11PM (317 days ago) @q

The scene is on Youtube. I can clearly see Steffy pushing Ivy away and against the panel. Again, if she was so innocent, she wouldd have tolk Baker the truth. But she lied. She should have just stayed out of Ivy and Thomas' business and nothing would have happened.


You have must a different youtube scene than me. Ivy was almost on top of Steffy when she raised her arm to get Ivy off and that's when Ivy went into the panel.


Steffy disobeyed the RO twice. Had she let Ivy alone and minded her own business none of it would have happened.

Looked to me like Ivy wouldn't leave her alone.

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ShirleyB#1, 8/1/2020, 3:19PM (317 days ago) @candycpw

Then why did she lie to Lt. Baker when he questionned her? Why lie if she was innocent? This push was violent and was very similar to Taylor and Morgan's. And why did she continue to bully and harass Ivy until she broke a RO? She pushed Ivy against the panel and never paid for it. Maybe not intentionally, but she did, and she lied, and got away with it. And Liam condoned everything, as usual-


Number 1, Steffy never pushed Ivy. If you watch Steffy was down and Ivy was basically on top of her and when Steffy pushed Ivy it was to get her off of her. Saying the push was violet is ridiculous. And talking about never paying for anything... Hope pushed Thomas into a vat of "acid". Brooke pushed Thomas off of a cliff. Bunch of lies coming from the precious Logan's about those incidents and I didn't see Big or Little Hypocrite paying for anything.

.which was it?

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q, 8/1/2020, 4:16PM (317 days ago) @ShirleyB#1

Then why did she lie to Lt. Baker when he questionned her? Why lie if she was innocent? This push was violent and was very similar to Taylor and Morgan's. And why did she continue to bully and harass Ivy until she broke a RO? She pushed Ivy against the panel and never paid for it. Maybe not intentionally, but she did, and she lied, and got away with it. And Liam condoned everything, as usual-


Number 1, Steffy never pushed Ivy. If you watch Steffy was down and Ivy was basically on top of her and when Steffy pushed Ivy it was to get her off of her. Saying the push was violet is ridiculous. And talking about never paying for anything... Hope pushed Thomas into a vat of "acid". Brooke pushed Thomas off of a cliff. Bunch of lies coming from the precious Logan's about those incidents and I didn't see Big or Little Hypocrite paying for anything.


.which was it?

LOL. Good catch.

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:26AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!

No, she wasn't, but apparently real facts don't mean much when one would rather distort them.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:30AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


No, she wasn't, but apparently real facts don't mean much when one would rather distort them.

This is a shove/push

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EnuffAlready, Texas, 8/1/2020, 11:34AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


No, she wasn't, but apparently real facts don't mean much when one would rather distort them.


This is a shove/push

That sure WAS a shove/push. KM's Hope was much more feisty than AN's Hope! :-D

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:41AM (317 days ago) @EnuffAlready

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


No, she wasn't, but apparently real facts don't mean much when one would rather distort them.


This is a shove/push


That sure WAS a shove/push. KM's Hope was much more feisty than AN's Hope! :-D

That sure was. Steffy never did that to Ivy far from it. I was never a Hope fan but you are right about KM being more feisty than AN :cool.

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

q, 8/1/2020, 11:39AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!

And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:42AM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.

Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

q, 8/1/2020, 11:48AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me

Making a point about exaggeration.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:50AM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.

Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas

Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

q, 8/1/2020, 11:56AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas

I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:03PM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.

I’ll remember you said that:na

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q, 8/1/2020, 12:05PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na

No need for ugly faces.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:09PM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.

That’s not an ugly face. Good grief

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q, 8/1/2020, 12:49PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief

I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:53PM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.

Nah not mine I’m a very happy person.

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 2:06PM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.

tell it to Hope, she needs it

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PatriotGirl @, 8/1/2020, 2:07PM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!

And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.


tell it to Hope, she needs it

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:rofl :rofl

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harper1, 8/1/2020, 2:11PM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!

And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.


tell it to Hope, she needs it

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:rofl

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q, 8/1/2020, 4:17PM (317 days ago) @harper1

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!

And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.

Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.


tell it to Hope, she needs it

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:rofl

Have you ever noticed Steffys face when she cries?

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 2:11PM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be

She was not shoved!!!!

And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Who’s talking about Thomas? Not me


Making a point about exaggeration.


Well I’m talking about Steffy and Ivy not Thomas


I talk about Thomas and Steffy and yet Hope, Liam and the cabin are always being brought up.


I’ll remember you said that:na


No need for ugly faces.


That’s not an ugly face. Good grief


I was always told that your face could freeze when you're making a face like that. Be careful.


Have to be careful.


tell it to Hope, she needs it

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:lol that’s funny!

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 11:43AM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.

Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 11:46AM (317 days ago) @MsBold

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.

:cool

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:51AM (317 days ago) @MsBold

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.

Big big big difference in pushing and tossing. Hope did not purposely push and I don't think she is capable of picking Thomas up and tossing him into a vat. She was trying to get away from him and with good reason.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 11:55AM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.


Big big big difference in pushing and tossing. Hope did not purposely push and I don't think she is capable of picking Thomas up and tossing him into a vat. She was trying to get away from him and with good reason.

How about this: Hope tossed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have a problem with.

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q, 8/1/2020, 11:59AM (317 days ago) @MsBold

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.


Big big big difference in pushing and tossing. Hope did not purposely push and I don't think she is capable of picking Thomas up and tossing him into a vat. She was trying to get away from him and with good reason.


How about this: Hope tossed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have a problem with.

She's not strong enough to pick Thomas up and toss him.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 12:02PM (317 days ago) @q

Steffy promised him she wouldn't tell Wyatt about Ivy and Thomas, but she did. Ivy had every rights to confront her, that doesn't mean she deserved to be shoved against the panel. Don't forget Steffy violating the restraining order after she promised Liam she would stay away from her. Causing Ivy 2 other concussions, Or getting snuggled half-naked in bed with his brother. Her list of crap is endless. Steffy had other options with Aly. She admitted so. She chose to hide the evidence and lie to the cops and Thorne. She was responsible for her cousin's death, and JMW agrees. Liam and Bill aren't decent when they are around Steffy. Never have been, never will be


She was not shoved!!!!


And Hope did not toss Thomas into a vat.


Sure. She pushed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have an issue with. Hope then found out she had actually pushed him into a vat of strong acid. She then told no one and did nothing.


Big big big difference in pushing and tossing. Hope did not purposely push and I don't think she is capable of picking Thomas up and tossing him into a vat. She was trying to get away from him and with good reason.


How about this: Hope tossed him away because he was manhandling her, which I don't have a problem with.


She's not strong enough to pick Thomas up and toss him.

Thanks q :cool

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MegsMom, 7/31/2020, 2:54PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 3:07PM (318 days ago) @MegsMom

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 3:16PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

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"You're the love of my life."

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 3:19PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 3:23PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 3:26PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 4:05PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 4:30PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

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Liam Does Have A Little Bit Of Decency

apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 4:37PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 5:27PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.


Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 5:33PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops


There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 5:35PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.


Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 5:40PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.


There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 5:44PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.

And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 5:54PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.

And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 5:56PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam

Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 6:06PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.

And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 7:20PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 7:24PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral

Well when your that close to your due date she should have not been alone. Anything could have happened.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:19PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral


Well when your that close to your due date she should have not been alone. Anything could have happened.


So, now it's not the storm but how far along she was?

What if Hope was only 7 months pregnant, delivered a premature baby and Reese stole her and sold her? Would that be her fault too?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 8:27PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral


Well when your that close to your due date she should have not been alone. Anything could have happened.

So, now it's not the storm but how far along she was?

What if Hope was only 7 months pregnant, delivered a premature baby and Reese stole her and sold her? Would that be her fault too?

Who said anything about a storm. Not me as far as I know.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:35PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral


Well when your that close to your due date she should have not been alone. Anything could have happened.

So, now it's not the storm but how far along she was?

What if Hope was only 7 months pregnant, delivered a premature baby and Reese stole her and sold her? Would that be her fault too?


Who said anything about a storm. Not me as far as I know.

Someone did. My bad if I got the posts mixed up. :wink

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 8:54PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Like she could have possibly anticipated that? :neutral


Well when your that close to your due date she should have not been alone. Anything could have happened.

So, now it's not the storm but how far along she was?

What if Hope was only 7 months pregnant, delivered a premature baby and Reese stole her and sold her? Would that be her fault too?


Who said anything about a storm. Not me as far as I know.


Someone did. My bad if I got the posts mixed up. :wink

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FancyGirl, 8/1/2020, 12:30PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened


Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:39PM (317 days ago) @FancyGirl

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.

How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 12:45PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.

All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:51PM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.


All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.

I think that would have been a stretch. Besides babies cry when they are born and given to the mother and or the father to hold so I doubt your idea would have worked. Nice try though :cool

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 12:55PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.


All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.


I think that would have been a stretch. Besides babies cry when they are born and given to the mother and or the father to hold so I doubt your idea would have worked. Nice try though :cool

Everything on this show is a stretch. Just like blaming Hope for causing her baby to be stolen and sold. ;-)

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 12:56PM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.


All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.


I think that would have been a stretch. Besides babies cry when they are born and given to the mother and or the father to hold so I doubt your idea would have worked. Nice try though :cool


Everything on this show is a stretch. Just like blaming Hope for causing her baby to be stolen and sold. ;-)

Actually not everything.

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Drangonfly @, 8/1/2020, 12:58PM (317 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.

And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.


All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.


I think that would have been a stretch. Besides babies cry when they are born and given to the mother and or the father to hold so I doubt your idea would have worked. Nice try though :cool


Everything on this show is a stretch. Just like blaming Hope for causing her baby to be stolen and sold. ;-)


Actually not everything.

Enough to make me scratch my head sometimes. It's all good though. :-D

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"You're the love of my life."

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 1:03PM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.

You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.

We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.

Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.

And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.

And I bet now looking back Hope probably knows she should have waited for Liam


Sure. Now that she knows that there was a sick twisted doctor on Catalina who wanted to steal her baby and sell her to Steffy.


And knowing if Liam was there none of it would have happened

Dr. Buckingham set everything in motion. He was determined to steal the baby and sell it to Steffy and would have found a way to do it even if Liam was there. He would have come up with some lie to keep Liam away from the hospital room.

Dr. Phillis gave Hope the greenlight to travel in helicopter. The helicopter didn't crash. Very different from Steffy swearing Liam something, jumping on a motorcycle and crashing it.


How? When Hope went into labor Liam would’ve been in that room. No doubt it. I just don’t see it happening if Liam was there. It was all last minute on Buckingham’s part.


All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.


I think that would have been a stretch. Besides babies cry when they are born and given to the mother and or the father to hold so I doubt your idea would have worked. Nice try though :cool


Everything on this show is a stretch. Just like blaming Hope for causing her baby to be stolen and sold. ;-)


Actually not everything.


Enough to make me scratch my head sometimes. It's all good though. :-D

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churro79, 8/2/2020, 12:56AM (317 days ago) @Drangonfly

All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.

Hope's baby and the other woman's dead baby were not twins so that wouldn't have worked.

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Drangonfly @, 8/2/2020, 8:29AM (316 days ago) @churro79

All he would have had to do was tell them he was taking Beth to another room to examine her and then come back with the other woman's dead baby.


Hope's baby and the other woman's dead baby were not twins so that wouldn't have worked.

The writers can make anything work that they want to. And there are endless ways for them to do so.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:44PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.

Well we have to go by the dialogue don't we. Unless it's just wishful thinking. There is nothing wrong with Steffy being on a motorcycle. People do it everyday. It's a mode of transportation. I guess anybody who rides a motorcycle is crazy now???? SMH!!!

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:12PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


Well we have to go by the dialogue don't we. Unless it's just wishful thinking. There is nothing wrong with Steffy being on a motorcycle. People do it everyday. It's a mode of transportation. I guess anybody who rides a motorcycle is crazy now???? SMH!!!

I don't think Steffy should be blamed for riding the motorcycle. Was merely pointing out the sloppy writing. Are we supposed to believe there are no stop signs or traffic lights in the area? The writers obviously didn't want either character to take the blame so they just ignored that little detail. You can unshake your head. JK! ;-)

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:19PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


Well we have to go by the dialogue don't we. Unless it's just wishful thinking. There is nothing wrong with Steffy being on a motorcycle. People do it everyday. It's a mode of transportation. I guess anybody who rides a motorcycle is crazy now???? SMH!!!


I don't think Steffy should be blamed for riding the motorcycle. Was merely pointing out the sloppy writing. Are we supposed to believe there are no stop signs or traffic lights in the area? The writers obviously didn't want either character to take the blame so they just ignored that little detail. You can unshake your head. JK! ;-)

Won't be "unshaking my head" because it always seems that Steffy is to blame when clearly the accident was just an accident. Neither one's fault. There is such a thing.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:21PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


And I bet Steffy is wishing she didn't get on that motorcycle again.

On a side note... I know the show bent over backwards to make it seem like it was neither Bill or Steffy's fault. But how can that be? One of them had to have done something wrong. There are traffic lights and stop signs and one of them had to go through one if order to crash.


Well we have to go by the dialogue don't we. Unless it's just wishful thinking. There is nothing wrong with Steffy being on a motorcycle. People do it everyday. It's a mode of transportation. I guess anybody who rides a motorcycle is crazy now???? SMH!!!


I don't think Steffy should be blamed for riding the motorcycle. Was merely pointing out the sloppy writing. Are we supposed to believe there are no stop signs or traffic lights in the area? The writers obviously didn't want either character to take the blame so they just ignored that little detail. You can unshake your head. JK! ;-)


Won't be "unshaking my head" because it always seems that Steffy is to blame when clearly the accident was just an accident. Neither one's fault. There is such a thing.

I clearly said she shouldn't be blamed. Now I'm SMH. :-D

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:51PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:56PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.

That is absolutely not true and there is nothing to support that statement. If there is please let us know.

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l.c @, 7/31/2020, 7:59PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

It's common sense. If there is a car crash on the road, 2 drivers are involved. Steffy and Bill were the drivers. One of them (or both) is factually responsible. If isn't Steffy, it's Bill. If it' isn't Bill, it's Steffy.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:04PM (318 days ago) @l.c

It's common sense. If there is a car crash on the road, 2 drivers are involved. Steffy and Bill were the drivers. One of them (or both) is factually responsible. If isn't Steffy, it's Bill. If it' isn't Bill, it's Steffy.

Lol, you just said (or both). Maybe they both were at fault. But of course it is all BIG BAD STEFFY'S fault.

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 5:50AM (317 days ago) @l.c

It's common sense. If there is a car crash on the road, 2 drivers are involved. Steffy and Bill were the drivers. One of them (or both) is factually responsible. If isn't Steffy, it's Bill. If it' isn't Bill, it's Steffy.

actually, there is something as a accident where no one is at fault. What if another driver took out the stop sign at the intersection? what if the lights arranging traffic were broken / defect?

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Zaneygray, 8/1/2020, 7:09AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.


That is absolutely not true and there is nothing to support that statement. If there is please let us know.

Exactly! And the police did investigate and found no fault on either Steffy or Bill.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 7:18AM (317 days ago) @Zaneygray

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.


That is absolutely not true and there is nothing to support that statement. If there is please let us know.


Exactly! And the police did investigate and found no fault on either Steffy or Bill.

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l.c @, 8/1/2020, 9:03PM (317 days ago) @Zaneygray

If Neither Steffy and Bill did something wrong, there would have been no collision. Not more complicated.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:16PM (318 days ago) @l.c

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.

Thank you. It's just not possible that Bill and Steffy obeyed every traffic rule and he wound up running into her. The show wants us to think that can happen, but I don't see how. The writers told us through dialogue that neither was to blame, so that's what it is, but it sure wasn't realistic.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 8:17PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.


Thank you. It's just not possible that Bill and Steffy obeyed every traffic rule and he wound up running into her. The show wants us to think that can happen, but I don't see how. The writers told us through dialogue that neither was to blame, so that's what it is, but it sure wasn't realistic.

Nothing is realistic on this show

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:20PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

Absolutely. When there is a crash, the police intervenes and investigates. Someone has to be responsible. If Bill and Steffy did nothing wrong and respected the rules, there wouldn't be any accident. Someone has to be responsible. Either it's Steffy, either it's Bill. From the short scene they showed when Steffy was riding, it looked like she was the one driving too fast.


Thank you. It's just not possible that Bill and Steffy obeyed every traffic rule and he wound up running into her. The show wants us to think that can happen, but I don't see how. The writers told us through dialogue that neither was to blame, so that's what it is, but it sure wasn't realistic.


Nothing is realistic on this show

On that we agree.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 7:41PM (318 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.


And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.

What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.

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apbas88 @, 7/31/2020, 8:04PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.

:cool Me either

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 5:49AM (317 days ago) @apbas88

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


:cool Me either

that's what i saw play out. A desperate and jealous Hope got her self into trouble once again.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:10PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.

Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:15PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.

Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:22PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No, Hope and Liam were together.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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candycpw, 7/31/2020, 8:24PM (318 days ago) @Drangonfly

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


No, Hope and Liam were together.

Oh they might have been together but Liam wouldn't choose and Hope stormed out. This happened at Forrester.

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Drangonfly @, 7/31/2020, 8:34PM (318 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


No, Hope and Liam were together.


Oh they might have been together but Liam wouldn't choose and Hope stormed out. This happened at Forrester.

There was a disagreement about Taylor, but that's all it was. They were definitely together.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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aliceneversmarinedelterme, 8/1/2020, 2:45AM (318 days ago) @candycpw

Liam said in front of Hope that he loves and respects both and she threw her tantrum.

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candycpw, 8/1/2020, 7:01AM (317 days ago) @aliceneversmarinedelterme

Liam said in front of Hope that he loves and respects both and she threw her tantrum.

:cool

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muppetfish @, 8/1/2020, 5:47AM (317 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


No, Hope and Liam were together.


Oh they might have been together but Liam wouldn't choose and Hope stormed out. This happened at Forrester.

yeah, Hope was feeling insecure because of kelly's birth. i still remember her and brooke slithering and watching steam + kelly at the christmas / thanksgiving party "Soon all his attention will be on you and your baby, just the 3 of you". Heck, brooke even felt the need to say to steffy that she and kelly would be second place after Beth was born.

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MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, 8/1/2020, 6:57AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


No, Hope and Liam were together.


Oh they might have been together but Liam wouldn't choose and Hope stormed out. This happened at Forrester.


yeah, Hope was feeling insecure because of kelly's birth. i still remember her and brooke slithering and watching steam + kelly at the christmas / thanksgiving party "Soon all his attention will be on you and your baby, just the 3 of you". Heck, brooke even felt the need to say to steffy that she and kelly would be second place after Beth was born.

I do remember that. Pretty crappy of Brooke.

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apbas88 @, 8/1/2020, 8:26AM (317 days ago) @muppetfish

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.

Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.

Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it

If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Huh? Liam was with Hope, not Steffy.


Umm, as I recall there were several episodes right before this where Hope was demanding a decision from Liam and when he didn't answer right she stormed out of the room at Forrester. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


No, Hope and Liam were together.


Oh they might have been together but Liam wouldn't choose and Hope stormed out. This happened at Forrester.


yeah, Hope was feeling insecure because of kelly's birth. i still remember her and brooke slithering and watching steam + kelly at the christmas / thanksgiving party "Soon all his attention will be on you and your baby, just the 3 of you". Heck, brooke even felt the need to say to steffy that she and kelly would be second place after Beth was born.

Yep I remember that :cool

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q, 8/1/2020, 12:13PM (317 days ago) @candycpw

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.


Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.

Liam was already with Hope. There was no need to get him away from her. And if she was so desperate to keep him away from Steffy why did she encourage Liam to meet Steffy at the hospital? The baby moon was something for them to spend alone time before the baby came. She went ahead to make preparations for a special dinner at the hotel. She did not know when she got on the helicopter that a storm was coming. Those winds come up suddenly in that area as was stated on the show.

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Barbybo, 8/2/2020, 5:06PM (316 days ago) @q

There is a little decency in him. He doesn't blame Steffy for being on a bike. Only an idiot would do that and he didn't. Steffy is a good person and mother and he knows that. I'm glad he didn't act like a jerk and reprimand her for something she didn't deserve.

Well, she wasn't pregnant this time. Regardless, Steffy really needs to stay off motorcycles.:oops

There's nothing wrong with her getting on a bike. I'm glad Liam wasn't a jerk about it.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Hope taking a helicopter ride to Catalina. Stuff happens sometimes.

There wasn't an impending storm coming when Steffy got on her bike.

And the storm had absolutely zero effect on Hope or Beth.

Sure it did she should have waited for Liam instead of going alone.


Why? She wanted Liam to go to the doctor for Kelly's appointment. The helicopter ride had nothing to do with what happened to Beth.


Sure it did. Her wanting Liam to go to Kelly’s Dr. appointment didn’t have anything to to do with her just waiting for him so they can go together so she wasn’t alone just in case she went into labor which she did. That’s just my take on it


If I remember correctly, there was only going to be one seat on the flight that Liam was going to take and that's why Hope went ahead first. I remember Hope talking to the woman at the desk about it.


You are correct but she could still have waited and went with Liam at a later time.


We could say that about any character's decisions, couldn't we? Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

She had clearance from the doc, the pilot was good with it, there was no reason for her not to go. That's all I need to know.


Yes to your first sentence. Still dumb on her part not to wait.


What it all boils down to is that she was so desperate to get Liam away from Steffy she planned this whole babymoon and threw caution to the wind when she knew a storm was coming. I will never have any sympathy for this conniving fool.


Liam was already with Hope. There was no need to get him away from her. And if she was so desperate to keep him away from Steffy why did she encourage Liam to meet Steffy at the hospital? The baby moon was something for them to spend alone time before the baby came. She went ahead to make preparations for a special dinner at the hotel. She did not know when she got on the helicopter that a storm was coming. Those winds come up suddenly in that area as was stated on the show.

That big belly a rational gal would’ve checked out medical facilities ....