SOD Spoilers for next week May 20 - 24 (General Discussion)

by EmaU, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 12:48PM (7 days ago)

Monday
Hope calls Flo and Zoe out after hearing them discussing Beth

Tuesday
Hope is deeply moved after reading a letter that Caroline wrote before dying

Wednesday
As their marriage crumbles, Lope share a heartbreaking moment

What will happen:
Ridge counsels Thomas

Steffy comes back from Paris

Brooke comforts her daughter

Hope is ecstatic to hold Phoebe again

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by RoseDeWBu, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 12:50PM (7 days ago) @ EmaU

How does Hope even know that letter was written by Caroline?

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by theduchess, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:01PM (7 days ago) @ RoseDeWBu

How does Hope even know that letter was written by Caroline?

well she should ask questions but she's too stupid, liam told her be wary of thomas but no, she continues to defend that creep

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by JFK, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 11:05PM (7 days ago) @ theduchess

How does Hope even know that letter was written by Caroline?


well she should ask questions but she's too stupid, liam told her be wary of thomas but no, she continues to defend that creep

Just liek she defended Wyatt who was even creepier.

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by Islandgirl_slu, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:09PM (7 days ago) @ RoseDeWBu

Been thinking the same..Wouldn't put it pass thomas to make that up though.

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by Shimster @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:11PM (7 days ago) @ RoseDeWBu
edited by Shimster, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:15PM

Because it wasn't written by Caroline. This is part of Thomas's sick diabolical plan. Hope is way too trusting and is going to fall for it. :grrr. Furthermore, I thought Caroline' s death was unexpected. If so, why would she have written such a letter?

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:16PM (7 days ago) @ Shimster

Because it wasn't written by Caroline. This is part of Thomas's sick diabolical plan. Hope is way too trusting and is going to fall for it. :grrr. Furthermore, I thought Caroline' s death was unexpected. If so, why would she have written such a letter?

Exactly. Thomas is taking his nasty plan to the next level.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Heather172, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:20PM (7 days ago) @ Shimster

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...

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by Sailor'sMom2, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:30PM (7 days ago) @ Heather172

Not to worry. Liam and Hope will find their way back to each other as soon as they find out Beth is alive. The three of them will be a family.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:33PM (7 days ago) @ Heather172

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...

It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Sailor'sMom2, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:36PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.

I can't believe this is the way Bell is going. It is ridiculous. One of the top watch B&B shows is when we see Hope and Beth reunite. Why keep this crap going?

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:58PM (7 days ago) @ Sailor'sMom2

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


I can't believe this is the way Bell is going. It is ridiculous. One of the top watch B&B shows is when we see Hope and Beth reunite. Why keep this crap going?

I think they'll be together for the reveal. That makes the most sense for me, as far as drama goes. What would be more dramatic than a couple finding out that their beloved child is alive and having her placed into their arms?

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Hit-Girl, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:40PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.

The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:54PM (7 days ago) @ Hit-Girl

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

Does Liam have Thomas manipulating him and exploiting his grief to further his agenda like he is doing with Hope?

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Shimster @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:14PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

IMO,Liam's grief was not as intense as Hope's as he had Kelly and Beth. His grief was very different than Hopes.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:03PM (7 days ago) @ Shimster

IMO,Liam's grief was not as intense as Hope's as he had Kelly and Beth. His grief was very different than Hopes.

Yes, and we even had Liam saying that he can understand why Hope's grief would be deeper, being that she was the one that carried the baby.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Shimster @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:08PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Agreed. He is not consumed by the grief as Hope is.

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:03PM (7 days ago) @ Hit-Girl

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

But thomas is not manipulating Liam, he is manipulating Hope

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:08PM (7 days ago) @ Lucky13

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

But thomas is not manipulating Liam, he is manipulating Hope

Plus, there hasn't been one single character on the show saying that Hope is acting selfishly. Even Liam knows that she's acting out of grief. And he isn't complaining about her at all. He's just worried about her.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Steamfan339 ⌂, Friday, May 17, 2019, 8:16AM (6 days ago) @ Drangonfly

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

But thomas is not manipulating Liam, he is manipulating Hope


Plus, there hasn't been one single character on the show saying that Hope is acting selfishly. Even Liam knows that she's acting out of grief. And he isn't complaining about her at all. He's just worried about her.

But the problem with this reasoning is the audience doesn't have to interpret things the same way as the characters.

Remember when Steffy learnt she was sterile, dumped Liam and ran off to Paris? Not one single character on the show was saying she left Liam for selfish reasons. Even Hope saw it as a sacrifice, and even Liam wasn't angry at her. Yet today, some viewers keep bashing her for that and saying she coldly abandoned her husband.

Not one single character on the show was criticizing Steffy, when she married Wyatt. For all the characters, it was clear that Quinn manipulated her and she would have stayed with Liam if not for Quinn. Liam wasn't angry at her when she told him she married his brother. He fought for her. Every characters on the show felt bad for Steffy. But some viewers called her selfish for not waiting for Liam and believing the texts she was getting and marrying Wyatt.

Not one single character called Steffy an adultress when she moved back in with Liam after she left Wyatt. In fact, every single characters was propping Steam, saying they are good people, and an amazing couple who overcame so many obstacles. Wyatt wasn't mad at her for leaving him, in fact he kept fighting for her until his divorce was final. YET, still today, I read that Steffy committed adultery, treated Wyatt horribly and that Steam is a horrible couple who never went through anything. This isn't how Bell wrote the story at all, but that's how a certain fandom felt.

Steffy was also bashed the entire time Bill was chasing her. She was such a vile person because she didn't fill a RO against Bill and didn't change her locks. SHe was accused of being in denial and secretely wanting to have sex with Bill again. She was accused of betraying Liam every times she was talking to Bill. But this isn't how the characters saw it at all. Everyone (including Brooke) adviced him to give Steffy another chance. Not one single character called her a selfish person, and most characters thought Bill took advantage of Steffy. Again, huge gap between the character's opinions and some viewers' opinions.

Bottom line, we're all entitled to our opinions and we can interpret a scene different ways. Just because no one on the show thinks Hope is selfish, doesn't mean the entire audience will agree with Liam and the other characters.

I am not saying she is a horrible person. But I think she is thinking about herself more than she is thinking about Liam. She made vows in front of a minister. She pledged to always be honest with Liam, never keep secrets from him, love him and stay married to him until death takes them. Result, she is betraying every vows she has made. She accused Steffy of dishonesty when she didn't tell Liam about Bill's proposal. Now another man kissed her, professed his undying love for her, proposed to her, and she is keeping Liam in the dark. She has decided there won't be another pregnancy and Liam needs to get over it and accept it. She has decided Liam has to be understanding of Thomas. Now she is deciding her marriage should end and isn't thinking about what HE wants. Is it selfish? I don't know, but she isn't innocent either. I can't give her a free pass for everything. If the Lope marriage falls apart, it will be on Flo, on Thomas AND on Hope. Steffy and Liam are 100% blameless this time.

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by Drangonfly, Friday, May 17, 2019, 8:36AM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

But thomas is not manipulating Liam, he is manipulating Hope


Plus, there hasn't been one single character on the show saying that Hope is acting selfishly. Even Liam knows that she's acting out of grief. And he isn't complaining about her at all. He's just worried about her.


But the problem with this reasoning is the audience doesn't have to interpret things the same way as the characters.

Remember when Steffy learnt she was sterile, dumped Liam and ran off to Paris? Not one single character on the show was saying she left Liam for selfish reasons. Even Hope saw it as a sacrifice, and even Liam wasn't angry at her. Yet today, some viewers keep bashing her for that and saying she coldly abandoned her husband.

Not one single character on the show was criticizing Steffy, when she married Wyatt. For all the characters, it was clear that Quinn manipulated her and she would have stayed with Liam if not for Quinn. Liam wasn't angry at her when she told him she married his brother. He fought for her. Every characters on the show felt bad for Steffy. But some viewers called her selfish for not waiting for Liam and believing the texts she was getting and marrying Wyatt.

Not one single character called Steffy an adultress when she moved back in with Liam after she left Wyatt. In fact, every single characters was propping Steam, saying they are good people, and an amazing couple who overcame so many obstacles. Wyatt wasn't mad at her for leaving him, in fact he kept fighting for her until his divorce was final. YET, still today, I read that Steffy committed adultery, treated Wyatt horribly and that Steam is a horrible couple who never went through anything. This isn't how Bell wrote the story at all, but that's how a certain fandom felt.

Steffy was also bashed the entire time Bill was chasing her. She was such a vile person because she didn't fill a RO against Bill and didn't change her locks. SHe was accused of being in denial and secretely wanting to have sex with Bill again. She was accused of betraying Liam every times she was talking to Bill. But this isn't how the characters saw it at all. Everyone (including Brooke) adviced him to give Steffy another chance. Not one single character called her a selfish person, and most characters thought Bill took advantage of Steffy. Again, huge gap between the character's opinions and some viewers' opinions.

Bottom line, we're all entitled to our opinions and we can interpret a scene different ways. Just because no one on the show thinks Hope is selfish, doesn't mean the entire audience will agree with Liam and the other characters.

I am not saying she is a horrible person. But I think she is thinking about herself more than she is thinking about Liam. She made vows in front of a minister. She pledged to always be honest with Liam, never keep secrets from him, love him and stay married to him until death takes them. Result, she is betraying every vows she has made. She accused Steffy of dishonesty when she didn't tell Liam about Bill's proposal. Now another man kissed her, professed his undying love for her, proposed to her, and she is keeping Liam in the dark. She has decided there won't be another pregnancy and Liam needs to get over it and accept it. She has decided Liam has to be understanding of Thomas. Now she is deciding her marriage should end and isn't thinking about what HE wants. Is it selfish? I don't know, but she isn't innocent either. I can't give her a free pass for everything. If the Lope marriage falls apart, it will be on Flo, on Thomas AND on Hope. Steffy and Liam are 100% blameless this time.

I honestly don't think the show is written as trying to depict characters in a certain light when they're putting out these stories. I think they just write whatever is going to bring the most drama, and the highest ratings. The viewers look at it through the eyes of their favorite and least favorite characters.

I don't know why there's always so much discussion about who is worse, Hope or Steffy. They're all flawed. It's just crazy to me to see such wild exaggerations.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by theduchess, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:00PM (7 days ago) @ Hit-Girl

the grief might mean a tad if this wasn't hope's modus operandi and even then it wouldn't absolve her, she always gives up on liam when the going gets rough - grief or no grief, she's even questioned why she does this but to no avail, quite simply she doesn't deserve liam and deserves to be stuck with thomas if she wants him instead :-D

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by ceelo, antigua, Friday, May 17, 2019, 10:05AM (6 days ago) @ Hit-Girl

So she is going to leave the love of her life for her stepbrother, because her husband's cousin wrote a letter saying she should be with him?..... I never thought she would sink that low, but now I am starting to believe it..... Liam is no saint, but Can't help feeling sorry for him,...


It's dumb writing. But that's what's happening. It's all about Hope's grief, not about her neglecting Liam.


The grief is a poor excuse for me! Liam is grieving too, but hs isn't kicking her to the curb and hiding secrets from her! Hope made vows, and now she is breaking them in the worst way possible! No excuse! She did the same to Wyatt when she lost her baby! Guess thats because she was grieving too? Yawn

I cannot talk For people but i know wha t grief do to people
I was in that same place after i lost my son at birth had three girls and my new born pass away i did want to see my boyfriend i could stand him i blame him for everything . he left and get a new girl and have a son it drive him nuts knowing what i was going through he keep saying he love me and me alone now we getting married in 20+years all the kids are happy september:-D

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by l.c @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:46PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

I like Hope, but it's stupid and wrong. I tend to agree with the other comments on this. If she really goes through with the divorce and marries Thomas because of a silly letter, I don't think she should expect Liam to come back immediately. I will call Liam out if he screws up too, but in this instance he has done nothing to deserve this. I don't think she is selfish, but she is being very naive, stupid and weak. I knew the divorce was coming sooner or later, but I was expecting a better storyline than this.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 1:56PM (7 days ago) @ l.c

I like Hope, but it's stupid and wrong. I tend to agree with the other comments on this. If she really goes through with the divorce and marries Thomas because of a silly letter, I don't think she should expect Liam to come back immediately. I will call Liam out if he screws up too, but in this instance he has done nothing to deserve this. I don't think she is selfish, but she is being very naive, stupid and weak. I knew the divorce was coming sooner or later, but I was expecting a better storyline than this.

The spoilers do make it sound dumb. Terrible writing, if accurate. But I've enjoyed the story so far and will wait to see what happens. :-)

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by l.c @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:01PM (7 days ago) @ Drangonfly

I was impressed by the new Thomas, at first. I felt bad for him at Caroline's funerals. and I liked the actor. Now I absolutely loathe everything about him, as much as I hated Wyatt when he was in the same position, chasing and manipulating Hope. I'll always like Hope, but I will have nausea if they put her with this depraved stalker. Won't feel much different about Liam if he goes back to his adultress wife. He has no pride, if he trusts her again. I have enjoyed the storyline until now, but not anymore if Hope and Liam move on with these 2 horrible snakes.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:07PM (7 days ago) @ l.c

I was impressed by the new Thomas, at first. I felt bad for him at Caroline's funerals. and I liked the actor. Now I absolutely loathe everything about him, as much as I hated Wyatt when he was in the same position, chasing and manipulating Hope. I'll always like Hope, but I will have nausea if they put her with this depraved stalker. Won't feel much different about Liam if he goes back to his adultress wife. He has no pride, if he trusts her again. I have enjoyed the storyline until now, but not anymore if Hope and Liam move on with these 2 horrible snakes.

Yeah, Wyatt did a little bit of manipulating back then. But this Thomas, Eck!

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by ceelo, antigua, Friday, May 17, 2019, 10:09AM (6 days ago) @ l.c

I like Hope, but it's stupid and wrong. I tend to agree with the other comments on this. If she really goes through with the divorce and marries Thomas because of a silly letter, I don't think she should expect Liam to come back immediately. I will call Liam out if he screws up too, but in this instance he has done nothing to deserve this. I don't think she is selfish, but she is being very naive, stupid and weak. I knew the divorce was coming sooner or later, but I was expecting a better storyline than this.

He has his to pay for His sin :-D

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by pbfan123, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:16PM (7 days ago) @ RoseDeWBu

This is why I can't feel bad for hope she never question anything

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by MegsMom, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:22PM (7 days ago) @ EmaU

Monday
Hope calls Flo and Zoe out after hearing them discussing Beth

Tuesday
Hope is deeply moved after reading a letter that Caroline wrote before dying

Wednesday
As their marriage crumbles, Lope share a heartbreaking moment

What will happen:
Ridge counsels Thomas

Steffy comes back from Paris

Brooke comforts her daughter

Hope is ecstatic to hold Phoebe again

Wake me when it's over. Then again, I feel another hiatus coming on. :drunk

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by Shimster @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:24PM (7 days ago) @ MegsMom

Agreed. Only interested in the reveal at this point. Thomas is disgusting.

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by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:28PM (7 days ago) @ MegsMom

Monday
Hope calls Flo and Zoe out after hearing them discussing Beth

Tuesday
Hope is deeply moved after reading a letter that Caroline wrote before dying

Wednesday
As their marriage crumbles, Lope share a heartbreaking moment

What will happen:
Ridge counsels Thomas

Steffy comes back from Paris

Brooke comforts her daughter

Hope is ecstatic to hold Phoebe again


Wake me when it's over. Then again, I feel another hiatus coming on. :drunk

Hey, it's May sweeps! Bell is pulling out all the stops to bring riveting drama. :drunk :lol

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:37PM (7 days ago) @ MegsMom

Monday
Hope calls Flo and Zoe out after hearing them discussing Beth

Tuesday
Hope is deeply moved after reading a letter that Caroline wrote before dying

Wednesday
As their marriage crumbles, Lope share a heartbreaking moment

What will happen:
Ridge counsels Thomas

Steffy comes back from Paris

Brooke comforts her daughter

Hope is ecstatic to hold Phoebe again


Wake me when it's over. Then again, I feel another hiatus coming on. :drunk

exactly. I'm just waiting for the reveal

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by angry gal ⌂, Melbourne AUS, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:25PM (7 days ago) @ EmaU

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.

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by Steamfan339 ⌂, Friday, May 17, 2019, 8:27AM (6 days ago) @ angry gal

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.

Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.

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by Twigs @, Friday, May 17, 2019, 10:39AM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.

It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.

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Liam: I don't want Steffy. I want you!

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 10:56AM (6 days ago) @ Twigs

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.

Thanks Twigs, makes me see it all differently

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by Steamfan339 ⌂, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:12AM (6 days ago) @ Twigs

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.

Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened her mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.

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Steam : www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ptRbSD1A8
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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:14AM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened his mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.

Thats ok, because Hope will get Beth back, and I am hoping she is pregnant. There has to be a reason they had LOPE make love before he left, and having Steffy mention it. LOPE will reunite again:love For that I am certain. Its just time for Steffy to have a round:lol

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by Steamfan339 ⌂, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:20AM (6 days ago) @ Lucky13

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened his mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.


Thats ok, because Hope will get Beth back, and I am hoping she is pregnant. There has to be a reason they had LOPE make love before he left, and having Steffy mention it. LOPE will reunite again:love For that I am certain. Its just time for Steffy to have a round:lol

Oh I am sure they will reunite too, but it won't be as simple. Last time Lope reunited, it required a baby, an adultery, manipulations, bribes, blackmail and Steffy giving up.
Liam didn't leave Steffy for Hope when he learnt about the gondola. He stayed married to Steffy for almost 6 months and if I'm not mistaken, he only left her because he thought Steffy was going along with the fake blood clot.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when the Rick lie came out.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when she lost her baby. Steffy dumped him and ran off to Paris.
He didn't leave Steffy when she slept with Bill and Hope was begging him. He chose Steffy, and only turned to Hope because of lies and manipulations.

So, let's admit he goes back to Steffy now. I doubt he is going to punish her when the reveal happens. She did nothing wrong this time and Lope aren't imploding because of her. Hope can't just get rid of him and expect him to leave Steffy after the reveal.

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Steam : www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ptRbSD1A8
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by Shimster @, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:25AM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Liam will leave Steffy all on his own once the truth comes out. He's definitely not going back to her because of his undying love for her. There is no baby, and Hope has given him plenty of outs. If he truly wanted to be with Steffy he had every chance to leave.

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by Drangonfly, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:27AM (6 days ago) @ Shimster

Liam will leave Steffy all on his own once the truth comes out. He's definitely not going back to her because of his undying love for her. There is no baby, and Hope has given him plenty of outs. If he truly wanted to be with Steffy he had every chance to leave.

That says it all for me. Liam was given more than a few chances to go back to Steffy. Even with Hope not having a child and Steffy having two, he still didn't want to go.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:30AM (6 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Liam will leave Steffy all on his own once the truth comes out. He's definitely not going back to her because of his undying love for her. There is no baby, and Hope has given him plenty of outs. If he truly wanted to be with Steffy he had every chance to leave.


That says it all for me. Liam was given more than a few chances to go back to Steffy. Even with Hope not having a child and Steffy having two, he still didn't want to go.

Exactly. He has had several chances, but he just doesnt want to.

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:28AM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened his mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.


Thats ok, because Hope will get Beth back, and I am hoping she is pregnant. There has to be a reason they had LOPE make love before he left, and having Steffy mention it. LOPE will reunite again:love For that I am certain. Its just time for Steffy to have a round:lol


Oh I am sure they will reunite too, but it won't be as simple. Last time Lope reunited, it required a baby, an adultery, manipulations, bribes, blackmail and Steffy giving up.
Liam didn't leave Steffy for Hope when he learnt about the gondola. He stayed married to Steffy for almost 6 months and if I'm not mistaken, he only left her because he thought Steffy was going along with the fake blood clot.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when the Rick lie came out.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when she lost her baby. Steffy dumped him and ran off to Paris.
He didn't leave Steffy when she slept with Bill and Hope was begging him. He chose Steffy, and only turned to Hope because of lies and manipulations.

So, let's admit he goes back to Steffy now. I doubt he is going to punish her when the reveal happens. She did nothing wrong this time and Lope aren't imploding because of her. Hope can't just get rid of him and expect him to leave Steffy after the reveal.

Liam will know AGAIN they were manipulated by Thomas. Hope is very vulnerable. I wonder if he will get both girls pregnant again at the same time. I think Hope may be pregnant with another LOPE baby, but the reveal will be right about the time of Beth. I dont agree that Liam is only with Hope because Steffy doesnt want him. Liam did leave Steffy several times for Hope. I do not agree that Hope lied or manipulated Liam either. Steffy has always had to work much harder, or have her minions do it for her like they are now. JMO

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by hopeyougogirl, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:36PM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened his mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.


Thats ok, because Hope will get Beth back, and I am hoping she is pregnant. There has to be a reason they had LOPE make love before he left, and having Steffy mention it. LOPE will reunite again:love For that I am certain. Its just time for Steffy to have a round:lol


Oh I am sure they will reunite too, but it won't be as simple. Last time Lope reunited, it required a baby, an adultery, manipulations, bribes, blackmail and Steffy giving up.
Liam didn't leave Steffy for Hope when he learnt about the gondola. He stayed married to Steffy for almost 6 months and if I'm not mistaken, he only left her because he thought Steffy was going along with the fake blood clot.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when the Rick lie came out.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when she lost her baby. Steffy dumped him and ran off to Paris.
He didn't leave Steffy when she slept with Bill and Hope was begging him. He chose Steffy, and only turned to Hope because of lies and manipulations.

So, let's admit he goes back to Steffy now. I doubt he is going to punish her when the reveal happens. She did nothing wrong this time and Lope aren't imploding because of her. Hope can't just get rid of him and expect him to leave Steffy after the reveal.

Disagree.

Liam wanted an annulment on their first marriage and the only reason he agreed to a divorce was because pathetic Steffy begged him..claiming how the marriage meant something to her and the annulment meant the ambused wedding didn't exist blah blah....

Hope doesn't have to expect anything from Liam..the moment he finds out about Beth, he will go running back to Hope. :-D

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by Drangonfly, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:52PM (6 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened his mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.


Thats ok, because Hope will get Beth back, and I am hoping she is pregnant. There has to be a reason they had LOPE make love before he left, and having Steffy mention it. LOPE will reunite again:love For that I am certain. Its just time for Steffy to have a round:lol


Oh I am sure they will reunite too, but it won't be as simple. Last time Lope reunited, it required a baby, an adultery, manipulations, bribes, blackmail and Steffy giving up.
Liam didn't leave Steffy for Hope when he learnt about the gondola. He stayed married to Steffy for almost 6 months and if I'm not mistaken, he only left her because he thought Steffy was going along with the fake blood clot.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when the Rick lie came out.
He didn't leave Steffy for Hope when she lost her baby. Steffy dumped him and ran off to Paris.
He didn't leave Steffy when she slept with Bill and Hope was begging him. He chose Steffy, and only turned to Hope because of lies and manipulations.

So, let's admit he goes back to Steffy now. I doubt he is going to punish her when the reveal happens. She did nothing wrong this time and Lope aren't imploding because of her. Hope can't just get rid of him and expect him to leave Steffy after the reveal.


Disagree.

Liam wanted an annulment on their first marriage and the only reason he agreed to a divorce was because pathetic Steffy begged him..claiming how the marriage meant something to her and the annulment meant the ambused wedding didn't exist blah blah....

Hope doesn't have to expect anything from Liam..the moment he finds out about Beth, he will go running back to Hope. :-D

Remember Liam did a giant fist pump and yelled out "Yes!" when Steffy agreed to give him an annulment? :-D

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by hopeyougogirl, Friday, May 17, 2019, 2:54PM (6 days ago) @ Steamfan339

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Steam didn't split because of cheating and lying. Liam forgave her, he sent cards and flowers. The marriage split because of manipulations and blackmail. 2 very different things.
Hope got Liam back because
1) Steffy screwed up and did the only thing Liam couldn't forgive her immediately.
2) Hope used his grief/heartbreak when he thought he'd shot his father, begged him to leave his pregnant wife and start over with her.
3) Bill conned Wyatt, who told Liam he was 100% sure Steffy had an ongoing affair with Bill.
4) Bill blackmailed Steffy into postponing her wedding and theatened her mother.
5) Hope got pregnant and used her baby to her advantage.
6) Steffy decided to give up on Liam completely and put her ring on Hope's finger.

Liam would still be with Steffy if one of these 6 things had happened differently. Even Steffy sleeping with her FIL, Hope begging him, Bill manipulating and blackmailing and a baby weren't enough for Lope.

So yeah, it's nice that Steffy gets Liam back now. She would still have him if not for Bill's evil manipulations, her stupid pregnancy and Steffy removing herself. Hope was already trying to gift Liam before Thomas and Douglas came back, so her decision has nothing to do with them. Heck, she was trying to gift Liam before she even gave birth, so I don't buy her concern for Steffy's children now. She wanted Liam for herself before she got pregnant and adviced Liam to reunite with Steffy before her baby was stolen. Her resoning makes no sense whatsoever.

Hope isn't cheating and lying? I saw her defending Thomas after he kissed her and proposed to her. Did she tell Liam about the kiss and the proposal? No. Did she tell Liam that she didn't correct Thomas when he told her they were in love? No. So yes, she is most certainly lying and keeping secrets from her husband.

Why does Liam need to forgive Steffy if they didn't split because of her cheating and lying?? :whistle

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by Shimster @, Friday, May 17, 2019, 4:16PM (6 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

Because they did split because of her cheating and lying - Liam found Steffy to be less than trustworthy.

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by hopeyougogirl, Friday, May 17, 2019, 4:39PM (6 days ago) @ Shimster

Because they did split because of her cheating and lying - Liam found Steffy to be less than trustworthy.

Exactly.

Liam moved out and filed for an annulment for a good reason..and that is all because of Steffy's cheating and lying! Otherwise, there wouldn't be any need for Liam to even forgive her in the first place.

And Leffy didn't split because of manipulation and blackmail either..cuz even after Bill's lie was exposed, Liam still didn't marry Steffy immediately like she wanted. And Hope being pregnant wouldn't have matter at all..Liam could have still marry Steffy no matter what and simply co-parent with Hope. Yet, he didn't!

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by Drangonfly, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:13AM (6 days ago) @ Twigs

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.

Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:15AM (6 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.

If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness

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by Drangonfly, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:21AM (6 days ago) @ Lucky13

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.


If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness

This triangle has turned everything into Hope vs. Steffy. The funny thing is that Hope and Steffy don't even dislike each other right now. They're actually supportive of each other. They're even, dare I say...friends. :surprised

I am sticking by my prediction that it will be Steffy that keeps Hope and Liam's marriage from falling apart. I think she will learn of Thomas's manipulations and put a stop to it. I think Lope will be together when they get Beth back.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Been wrong before. But that's how I think it will go down.

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:24AM (6 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.


If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness


This triangle has turned everything into Hope vs. Steffy. The funny thing is that Hope and Steffy don't even dislike each other right now. They're actually supportive of each other. They're even, dare I say...friends. :surprised

I am sticking by my prediction that it will be Steffy that keeps Hope and Liam's marriage from falling apart. I think she will learn of Thomas's manipulations and put a stop to it. I think Lope will be together when they get Beth back.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Been wrong before. But that's how I think it will go down.

Agreed. The fan wars get over the top. Im ok with Lope imploding for now. They will be back, and it will be Steffys turn for pain

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:11PM (6 days ago) @ Lucky13

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.


If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness


This triangle has turned everything into Hope vs. Steffy. The funny thing is that Hope and Steffy don't even dislike each other right now. They're actually supportive of each other. They're even, dare I say...friends. :surprised

I am sticking by my prediction that it will be Steffy that keeps Hope and Liam's marriage from falling apart. I think she will learn of Thomas's manipulations and put a stop to it. I think Lope will be together when they get Beth back.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Been wrong before. But that's how I think it will go down.


Agreed. The fan wars get over the top. Im ok with Lope imploding for now. They will be back, and it will be Steffys turn for pain

I am sick of liam being gifted ..:puke

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by mglass, Friday, May 17, 2019, 3:01PM (6 days ago) @ Lucky13

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.


If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness


This triangle has turned everything into Hope vs. Steffy. The funny thing is that Hope and Steffy don't even dislike each other right now. They're actually supportive of each other. They're even, dare I say...friends. :surprised

I am sticking by my prediction that it will be Steffy that keeps Hope and Liam's marriage from falling apart. I think she will learn of Thomas's manipulations and put a stop to it. I think Lope will be together when they get Beth back.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Been wrong before. But that's how I think it will go down.


Agreed. The fan wars get over the top. Im ok with Lope imploding for now. They will be back, and it will be Steffys turn for pain

Hey lucky - hope you have a good weekend - this show is driving me nuts!

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 3:56PM (6 days ago) @ Lucky13

Just how stupid does Bell think his viewers are??
Hope reading a letter that Caroline supposedly wrote....ok when it was announced that Caroline died from a sudden blood clot it was asked at the time " was she ill did she know she had a blood clot?" The response from Thomas was " NO she had no idea it was just so sudden". Now we're supposed to believe that a woman who didn't know she would die wrote a letter to Hope asking her to divorce Liam and be a family with Douglas and Thomas and a mother to Douglas. Really ??? If in fact Caroline did write this letter I believe that it was Thomas who stood over her and forced her to write this supposed letter and then he killed her. It's the only explanation that would fit this creepy sl Thomas is unstable and as we've seen is capable of anything including murder.


Well, if Hope believes the letter and makes decisions based on this letter, it will be 100% on her. And it will just prove what a stupid and gullible person she is. Like I said, if Hope ends her marriage and hooks up with Thomas, it will be 50% on Thomas and 50% on Hope. Steffy and Liam will be 100% blameless this time.

For the record, not every blood clots are similar. Some people are struck and die instantly without having the chance to say something. Some people die a few minutes, hours or days later. In Caroline's case, it wasn't days, but it's possible she passed away for good 1 or 2 hours after the blood clot came out. In this case, she might have had enough time to say her last wishes on her deathbed.

Caroline knew Hope lost Beth. ANd they were close when Caroline was married to Hope's brother Rick. Caroline also knew Thomas was in love with Hope and had pursued her years ago (she was one of the victims of it, by the way... remember the kiss during the press conference, Caroline was jealous?) If before she passed away, Thomas asked her who should be taking care of Douglas, it isn't foolish to think her answer was Hope. By the way, the spoilers say Caroline wrote the letter. I will wait and see how it plays out. At this point i don't think Caroline wrote the letter, but I cannot certify it.


It’s nice that Steffy gets Liam back because of a kidnapped child. Hope and Liam’s, supposedly dead, kidnapped child and her evil, scheming brother paved the way for yet another romantic reunion. But as long as they are blameless they should be golden.

Grief does things to people. So does holding a dead baby in your arms. These things do not make a person stupid and gullible, they make them vulnerable and confused. I’m so glad Bell is writing the Lope breakup the way he is. Grief and tragedy as opposed to cheating and lying.


Thanks, Twigs. This story is about Hope's grief. And now Thomas is using that grief to get what he wants. Hope for himself and Liam for Steffy. I am 100% confident that Bell is not telling us the story of a stupid, selfish girl.


If he is, they better do something, because even recaps mention Hopes grief, and not one word about selfishness


This triangle has turned everything into Hope vs. Steffy. The funny thing is that Hope and Steffy don't even dislike each other right now. They're actually supportive of each other. They're even, dare I say...friends. :surprised

I am sticking by my prediction that it will be Steffy that keeps Hope and Liam's marriage from falling apart. I think she will learn of Thomas's manipulations and put a stop to it. I think Lope will be together when they get Beth back.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Been wrong before. But that's how I think it will go down.


Agreed. The fan wars get over the top. Im ok with Lope imploding for now. They will be back, and it will be Steffys turn for pain

Bell should end the gifting it’s nit even interesting anymore

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