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by wow, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:07AM (9 days ago)

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.

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by muppetfish @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:14AM (9 days ago) @ wow

I really hoped the phoeboe fixation would be over by now. Hope thinks the connection she feels is because the baby is part logan so that would have been one way to lay it low for a while. And what is she gonna do with Douglas now phoeboe is back? Play mom to him while daydreaming about phoeboe?

Months have gone by and nothing is really different.

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:37AM (9 days ago) @ muppetfish

I really hoped the phoeboe fixation would be over by now. Hope thinks the connection she feels is because the baby is part logan so that would have been one way to lay it low for a while. And what is she gonna do with Douglas now phoeboe is back? Play mom to him while daydreaming about phoeboe?

Months have gone by and nothing is really different.

It’s same every day. And it’s nit interesting

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 2:53AM (9 days ago) @ wow

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.

I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?

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by l.c @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:40AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.

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by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:52AM (9 days ago) @ l.c

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.

I don't think Hope hates Kelly but I don't recall a single scene where she has shown any affection towards her. She has now bonded and spent time with Phoebe and Douglas. We can only go by what we have been shown either on screen or in dialogue. I don't think even in dialogue it has been mentioned that Hope spent time playing with Kelly. It is very easy for the writers to fix it but they haven't so far. So it is fair to wonder why.

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by HopeNationROCKS @, California, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:04AM (9 days ago) @ Curiosity12

I think that this is to hightlight the difference between the connection Hope has with Beth, since she is her daughter, even if she doesn't know it, and the connection (limited) Hope may have with Kelly. IMO, writers' intentions are not to understimate Hope's affection for Kelly but to emphasize Hope's irrational connection to Beth, per contrast.

Douglas is another storyline and anyway their connection is justified by sharing a loss.

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by Ryc1976, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 6:16AM (9 days ago) @ HopeNationROCKS

Exactly!

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:40AM (9 days ago) @ Curiosity12

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don't think Hope hates Kelly but I don't recall a single scene where she has shown any affection towards her. She has now bonded and spent time with Phoebe and Douglas. We can only go by what we have been shown either on screen or in dialogue. I don't think even in dialogue it has been mentioned that Hope spent time playing with Kelly. It is very easy for the writers to fix it but they haven't so far. So it is fair to wonder why.

She don’t hate or dislike a baby deep down she’s jealous liam and Steffy are connected for life because of a kid..it’s a chip in her fantasy world life is perfect cause it ain’t for her never will be

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by Ryc1976, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 6:15AM (9 days ago) @ Curiosity12

Its because that's what the writers wrote for Hope. The story line isn't about Hope and Kelly, its about Hope and her child...Beth, and Thomas' using Douglas to manipulate Hope.

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:00AM (9 days ago) @ l.c

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.

I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:03AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.

I honestly think there is a limit to how many can hold an infant during a specific time. Too many germ chances I guess.

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:10AM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.


I honestly think there is a limit to how many can hold an infant during a specific time. Too many germ chances I guess.

Ok.

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:13AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.


I honestly think there is a limit to how many can hold an infant during a specific time. Too many germ chances I guess.


Ok.

Oh, please dont think I was being rude. I am sorry if that sounded weird. You are so nice, and I dont want to be rude, it surely was not intended.

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:22AM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.


I honestly think there is a limit to how many can hold an infant during a specific time. Too many germ chances I guess.


Ok.


Oh, please dont think I was being rude. I am sorry if that sounded weird. You are so nice, and I dont want to be rude, it surely was not intended.

I didn’t take it that way. It’s ok.

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by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:41AM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

If you imply that Hope hates Kelly, it is incorrect. It doesn't have to be shown she is holding her. We know, per dialogues that Hope cares about Kelly and wants the best for her. She didn't contest it when Steffy wanted to adopt a baby. But the focus is on Phoebe, because of the connection and because she thinks she is her cousin's daughter. She feels a stronger bong with Phoebe/Beth, for obvious reasons.


I don’t think Hope hates Kelly but it’s weird the writers purposely have not let us see her hold Kelly at all since she’s been born.


I honestly think there is a limit to how many can hold an infant during a specific time. Too many germ chances I guess.

The thing is, Kelly was born last summer. That is a long time to put in a short scene yet they haven't done it. Maybe it is just bad writing. They could even squeeze it in the dialogue with Hope saying she spent some time playing with Kelly. But again, nothing. Not sure why.

Also, Kelly isn't an infant anymore and hasn't been for a while. Plus not really sure about the germ thing, when my nephew was born, everyone got to hold him. Nothing bad happened to him.

Either way, it is just something that strikes many as a little odd. The writers could easily fix it so I hope they will.

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:38AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?

She doesn’t ....and I am surprised it doesn’t bother liam ...

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by Ryc1976, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 6:12AM (9 days ago) @ Barbybo

lol...she doesn't hold Kelly because the writers don't write it in. It doesn't bother Liam because this story has never been written as Hope not caring or being dismissive of Kelly...thats just the spin/ interpretation Hope haters put on it.

My guess is the babies are only held by certain people...so unless the bond between Kelly and Hope is highlighted by a story... why would the writers write it in?

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:02AM (9 days ago) @ Ryc1976

lol...she doesn't hold Kelly because the writers don't write it in. It doesn't bother Liam because this story has never been written as Hope not caring or being dismissive of Kelly...thats just the spin/ interpretation Hope haters put on it.

My guess is the babies are only held by certain people...so unless the bond between Kelly and Hope is highlighted by a story... why would the writers write it in?

No parent would want a bunch of people holding their infant onscreen. It has to be very limited and a bonding has to occur, just like Annika and the baby who is going to play Beth. The bonding has to occur for the scenes to go well. Off topic: the pics of Annika and the baby are ADORABLE! Cant wait for scenes to air!

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:27AM (9 days ago) @ Ryc1976

lol...she doesn't hold Kelly because the writers don't write it in. It doesn't bother Liam because this story has never been written as Hope not caring or being dismissive of Kelly...thats just the spin/ interpretation Hope haters put on it.

My guess is the babies are only held by certain people...so unless the bond between Kelly and Hope is highlighted by a story... why would the writers write it in?

Maybe because she’s the step mom ..it’s liams baby ...the kid never even went to cabin now that’s really odd..maybe writers like Liam hanging on Steffys couch...such stupid story anyway Steffy adopts Hopes kid ...

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by FancyGirl, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:00AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?

Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift. No need to see more.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:06AM (9 days ago) @ FancyGirl

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.

I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.

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Bill to Steffy: You're a grand prize. You're a queen. The total package. Brains, beauty, warmth, heart. I've always known that about you. Don't you ever doubt how extraordinary you are.

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:09AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.

I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth

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by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:13AM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth

I can’t even say that because it’s been going on before Beth was born. I just think it’s weird. Even Brooke held Kelly.

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Bill to Steffy: You're a grand prize. You're a queen. The total package. Brains, beauty, warmth, heart. I've always known that about you. Don't you ever doubt how extraordinary you are.

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by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:47AM (9 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth


I can’t even say that because it’s been going on before Beth was born. I just think it’s weird. Even Brooke held Kelly.

That is true. Either it is really bad writing or the point is Kelly reminds her of Liam and Steffy and their bond and she resents it. In other words, she doesn't resent the baby herself but what she represents.

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by mglass, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 12:22PM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth

I think Hope loves and cares for both girls - but the writers are literally SHOVING her bond with Phoebe down our throats - it is too much for me -

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 12:27PM (9 days ago) @ mglass

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth


I think Hope loves and cares for both girls - but the writers are literally SHOVING her bond with Phoebe down our throats - it is too much for me -

I believe they are trying to show the undeniable bond between mother and child. To explain Hopes severe depression, but she just gets called a stupid selfish wannabe homewrecker by most. Bell may need to make it more clear:lol

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by mglass, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 4:57PM (9 days ago) @ Lucky13

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth


I think Hope loves and cares for both girls - but the writers are literally SHOVING her bond with Phoebe down our throats - it is too much for me -


I believe they are trying to show the undeniable bond between mother and child. To explain Hopes severe depression, but she just gets called a stupid selfish wannabe homewrecker by most. Bell may need to make it more clear:lol

She's not my fave but I have no ill will or bad things to say about her - but (and I know this is daytime drama) it just seems too much/too forced/etc - I would expect a mom and child to bond for sure - but this just seems so over the top -
just my thinking -

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by Lucky13, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:01PM (9 days ago) @ mglass

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth


I think Hope loves and cares for both girls - but the writers are literally SHOVING her bond with Phoebe down our throats - it is too much for me -


I believe they are trying to show the undeniable bond between mother and child. To explain Hopes severe depression, but she just gets called a stupid selfish wannabe homewrecker by most. Bell may need to make it more clear:lol


She's not my fave but I have no ill will or bad things to say about her - but (and I know this is daytime drama) it just seems too much/too forced/etc - I would expect a mom and child to bond for sure - but this just seems so over the top -
just my thinking -

I agree, but I think the age of "Phoebe" and the fact that she was "adopted " the day of Beths memorial tripled it for Hope. Even Steffy was amazed at their immediate bond.I just don't see Hope as selfish or evil, or a homewrecker.

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:18PM (8 days ago) @ Lucky13

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


I don’t remember Hope holding Kelly at all. I remember her taking Kelly a gift and Steffy offered for Hope to hold her and Hope declined. As for Steffy, we’ve seen her with her daughters plenty of time from holding them to even trying to make bottles for them or taking Kelly to the doctor when she was feeling well so no it can never be said that she doesn’t care about them but I do have the right to question why we have never seen Hope hold Kelly since she’s been born and before Beth was born. I find it odd and it’s purposely done.


I dont see it that it is supposed to mean that Hope doesnt like Kelly. I think the writers are trying to show the undeniable bond Hope has with her daughter, Beth


I think Hope loves and cares for both girls - but the writers are literally SHOVING her bond with Phoebe down our throats - it is too much for me -


I believe they are trying to show the undeniable bond between mother and child. To explain Hopes severe depression, but she just gets called a stupid selfish wannabe homewrecker by most. Bell may need to make it more clear:lol

I think Hopes new role is the gal who keeps gifting her hubbie

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by Judx, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:15AM (9 days ago) @ FancyGirl
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Agree.

The show has tunnel vision when the focus is on certain aspects and they don't allow other distractions. They put all the writing into specific connections, like building the bond Hope has with Beth, which has been fairly good.

As to missing scenes or others. After Kelly was born, it was even mentioned that Liam is rarely shown holding Kelly. It was disappointing because I think he had one scene while Steffy was the focus with Kelly. And, since then, Liam was shown maybe once with Kelly outside the cliff house. Most of the scenes are there with Kelly. They never show her with Hope and Liam at the cabin. It is a shame that the show thinks these are either not necessary or that they will draw away from their determined storyline. In B&B form, they leave these scenes as off screen action and time, it doesn't mean they don't exist or don't happen. No scenes don't mean Hope is not attentive to Kelly - they just don't place any attention in creating those scenes as they want to build Hope's maternal love for Beth.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 10:02AM (9 days ago) @ Judx

Agree.

The show has tunnel vision when the focus is on certain aspects and they don't allow other distractions. They put all the writing into specific connections, like building the bond Hope has with Beth, which has been fairly good.

As to missing scenes or others. After Kelly was born, it was even mentioned that Liam is rarely shown holding Kelly. It was disappointing because I think he had one scene while Steffy was the focus with Kelly. And, since then, Liam was shown maybe once with Kelly outside the cliff house. Most of the scenes are there with Kelly. They never show her with Hope and Liam at the cabin. It is a shame that the show thinks these are either not necessary or that they will draw away from their determined storyline. In B&B form, they leave these scenes as off screen action and time, it doesn't mean they don't exist or don't happen. No scenes don't mean Hope is not attentive to Kelly - they just don't place any attention in creating those scenes as they want to build Hope's maternal love for Beth.

I agree. We never see Bill visiting Kelly and he's her grandfather. Eric never goes to visit her either. Has he ever even BEEN to the cliff house? We never saw Brooke holding Lizzy.

If the writers wanted us to believe that Hope doesn't care for Kelly it would be in the dialogue. But it's been the opposite. Liam has mentioned how good Hope is with her and Hope has stated many times how important it is for Liam to be in her life.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Zaneygray, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:29PM (8 days ago) @ FancyGirl

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift. No need to see more.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.

Sorry, but no, Hope never held Kelly then or any othr time. Steffy offered to have Hope hold Kelly, but Hope declined.

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by Lucky13, Friday, May 17, 2019, 1:30PM (8 days ago) @ Zaneygray

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I still haven’t seen Hope hold Kelly or did I miss it?


Yes, you must have missed it. After her birth, Brooke, Hope and Ridge all visited Steffy and Liam. Hope brought Kelly a gift and took her in her arms. Shown on screen once, it's enough to know that she also holds her. But the show is insisting on Hope and Phoebes relationship because the audience knows she is her biological daughter. She held Kelly once and brought her a gift. No need to see more.

With such logics, we can also say that Steffy doesn't care about her daughters. Have we ever seen Steffy taking the girls to the park or the zoo? No, never shown. Does it mean it never happens and she neglects them? Of course not.


Sorry, but no, Hope never held Kelly then or any othr time. Steffy offered to have Hope hold Kelly, but Hope declined.

Well, then, I guess Steffy has never changed a diaper or given either baby a bath. She is an unfit mother, then I guess. If we dont see it, it doesnt happen

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:36AM (9 days ago) @ wow

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.

They can skip this Hopes baby stuff for a while it’s getting stupid the baby boom script was too stupid for words

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by KatieFan32 ⌂, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:11AM (9 days ago) @ wow

It's the Steffy and Hope show again. Want to see Katie and Bill instead

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Team Katie and Bill always

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by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 7:30AM (9 days ago) @ KatieFan32

It's the Steffy and Hope show again. Want to see Katie and Bill instead

Since bell ain’t hurting a guy for Steffy..I see no end:didas

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by Mariposaa, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:04AM (9 days ago) @ wow

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.

I'm glad Hope is finally getting the chance to hold Beth again. :love Missed their mother daughter bond.

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:16PM (8 days ago) @ Mariposaa

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


I'm glad Hope is finally getting the chance to hold Beth again. :love Missed their mother daughter bond.

Maybe she could hold Beth when she gifts liam at another wedding...:lol. The gifting is getting soo stupid ....hire a new hunk for Steffy burrow one from y and r. That Adam hunk

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by l.c @, Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:20PM (8 days ago) @ Barbybo

She doesn't deserve a hunk, until she is completely over Hope's husband, has stopped whining that Hope took her family and has taken down her hideous portrait. What guy would want a woman like that? He would be second or third choice for her.

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 6:19PM (8 days ago) @ l.c

She doesn't deserve a hunk, until she is completely over Hope's husband, has stopped whining that Hope took her family and has taken down her hideous portrait. What guy would want a woman like that? He would be second or third choice for her.

Well the gifting isn’t even interesting zzz

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by q, Friday, May 17, 2019, 6:21PM (8 days ago) @ Barbybo

She doesn't deserve a hunk, until she is completely over Hope's husband, has stopped whining that Hope took her family and has taken down her hideous portrait. What guy would want a woman like that? He would be second or third choice for her.


Well the gifting isn’t even interesting zzz

Steffy still hung up on Liam has nothing to do with gifting. Steffy won't get s hunk until she is over Liam.

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by Drangonfly, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:42AM (9 days ago) @ wow

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.

Ridge counsels Thomas. Son, go out there and get Liam for your sister!

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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by Shimster @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 12:29PM (9 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Heavens I hope not!

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by Barbybo, Friday, May 17, 2019, 6:20PM (8 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Steffy returns home from Paris.

Brooke comforts Hope.

Ridge counsels Thomas.

Hope visits Steffy elated to hold Phoebe again.


Ridge counsels Thomas. Son, go out there and get Liam for your sister!

Mommy and Hope chat ...I guess Brooke’s head explodes

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