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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish* (General Discussion)

by Drangonfly, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:02PM (97 days ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Mariposaa, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:14PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.

Annika is :love

I'm very impressed that Steffy's character has shaped up wonderfully. She's definitely flawed but she's not the same Steffy from years ago. I'm glad they grew her up. It's pleasing to watch independent, self loving women.

Ah Thomas, why do I feel he's going to do something freaky.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Drangonfly, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:33PM (97 days ago) @ Mariposaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


Annika is :love

I'm very impressed that Steffy's character has shaped up wonderfully. She's definitely flawed but she's not the same Steffy from years ago. I'm glad they grew her up. It's pleasing to watch independent, self loving women.

Ah Thomas, why do I feel he's going to do something freaky.

Annika said that Steffy is going to be there for Hope in some interesting ways. I bet Steffy is going to shut Thomas down. Hopefully she'll tell him to stop using her situation to break up Hope and Liam and stop pushing Liam to go back to her and the girls.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by l.c @, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:59PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Kind of like she did with Bill or Wyatt with Quinn? It never works. She will tell Thomas to back off but she isn't going to do anything serious to stop him, and if she benefits from his manipulations, she won't complain. Just like with Bill in Italy. She pretended to be appalled by his schemes, but didn't complain once she had Liam. Steffy being supportive of Hope will likely be her way to get closer to Liam. She knows he isn't going to appreciate it if she bullies Hope.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by EsterMD @, Somewhere in the Local Group!!!, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:24PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

The opposite would have been surprising. :^^ :^^ :^^
Hope was also very supportive of Liam&Steffy's marriage when she got back. Until she was not. :oops
I expect the same thing here. Steffy will suport Hope&Liam's marriage for some time. Until she does not.
Actually; if Steffy sees Liam is suffering because Hope is letting him down; she will be supportive of Liam, not Hope.
As for Thomas, I am still waiting to see this supposed crazy side of him. Hope&Liam have been through much worse than this, when Bill & then Quinn were manipulating them. Thomas' little video & draw are mild, in comparison. I do not want him to become a psycho.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by KatieFan32 ⌂, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:27PM (97 days ago) @ EsterMD

I see Thomas on this show for a very short stint. If he is on here to be evil.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by JayCee_II, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:01PM (97 days ago) @ EsterMD

Too late. Thomas is already a psycho.

Thomas is not a teenager. He's old enough to know that he should move on when a woman makes it clear she's not interested in him. But no, Thomas insists that Lope needs to split so he and his sister can have the mates he wants them to have -- never mind what future Liam, Hope, and Steffy want for themselves.

Thomas has mental issues like his mother and father. They all seem to think the world revolves around them and what they want to happen in life.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by IW, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:29PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.

Thank you for the video.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Drangonfly, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:34PM (97 days ago) @ IW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


Thank you for the video.

You're welcome. Annika is just so pretty, isn't she? And so nice. And it's cool that she and JMW get along so well.

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"All she can think about is the well-being of these beautiful babies. It’s not about her at all. And she just wants what’s best for everyone involved.” - Annika Noelle on Hope

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Steamfan339 ⌂ @, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 9:55PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.

I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by hopeyougogirl, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:04PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool

Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Steamfan339 ⌂ @, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:14PM (97 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.

If Liam has to beg Hope not to leave him for another man, I think it means things are worse, IMO. Hope is seriously thinking about leaving her marriage right now, and that's not because she thinks Liam doesn't want her or has betrayed her. She knows all the informations (except that her baby is alive) She knows Douglas wants her to be his mother, she knows what Thomas wants, and she knows the girls need their father. She isn't making decisions based on false assumptions (like when she married Wyatt for instance... she believed Liam had stood her up and was done with her, which is not the case here)

And Hope is keeping secrets from her husband. She knows Liam hates secrets and wants honesty. She believed Liam needed to know IMMEDIATELY when Bill proposed to Steffy, but she has no problem keeping Thomas' proposal and kiss from her husband. I call it double standards.

I think Steffy will try to be supportive of Liam and Hope. But if Hope isn't supporting her own husband and is hurting him, there is nothing Steffy can do to stop it. I don't think Steffy will beg Hope to stay with Liam if she wants out. It's not her role.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by hopeyougogirl, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:47PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339
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Nope.

Liam KNOWS his wife is still very vulnerable because of the tragedy..still full of guilt and grief..that's why he's begging her. His mind is much more clearer than Hope's at the moment.

Tragedy can tear a married couple apart or make them stronger..Lope's case is far far different than Leffy's last marriage where there was an actual cheating adultery involved! I don't see anything wrong with Liam begging Hope because they love each other very much and he wants to help his wife get pass this tragedy!

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by JFK, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 11:45PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.


If Liam has to beg Hope not to leave him for another man, I think it means things are worse, IMO. Hope is seriously thinking about leaving her marriage right now, and that's not because she thinks Liam doesn't want her or has betrayed her. She knows all the informations (except that her baby is alive) She knows Douglas wants her to be his mother, she knows what Thomas wants, and she knows the girls need their father. She isn't making decisions based on false assumptions (like when she married Wyatt for instance... she believed Liam had stood her up and was done with her, which is not the case here)

And Hope is keeping secrets from her husband. She knows Liam hates secrets and wants honesty. She believed Liam needed to know IMMEDIATELY when Bill proposed to Steffy, but she has no problem keeping Thomas' proposal and kiss from her husband. I call it double standards.

I think Steffy will try to be supportive of Liam and Hope. But if Hope isn't supporting her own husband and is hurting him, there is nothing Steffy can do to stop it. I don't think Steffy will beg Hope to stay with Liam if she wants out. It's not her role.

:cool

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Liam to Steffy: "You are more essential to me than my own name. When has it even been over between us?"

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:38AM (97 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.

By the time Steffy returns, Lope will have broken up. I would call it "worse". I would also say that Hope isn't a helpless child and should be able to defend herself from blatant manipulations. It's not like Thomas is pulling strings in secret. He is very open about his motives and has acted in a brazen way. Apparently Hope sees nothing wrong with it since she is not drawing strict boundaries. She should also have enough wits about her to understand that even if Caroline wished for something (as implausible as it is), it is not a realistic or fair request. You cannot live your life by someone else's directions.
It also doesn't help that she hasn't told her husband how far Thomas has already gone in his pursuit. She is making it sound like something innocent when it is not.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by HopeNationROCKS @, California, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:15AM (97 days ago) @ Curiosity12

Even if a Hope fan, I have to agree and I'm mad at her for being so dumb.
I'm even more disappointed with writers. Hope fans have to deal with all her loss and all the moments she is missing with her baby and now we have to deal with making looking Hope this way.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Barbybo, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 5:50AM (97 days ago) @ Curiosity12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.


By the time Steffy returns, Lope will have broken up. I would call it "worse". I would also say that Hope isn't a helpless child and should be able to defend herself from blatant manipulations. It's not like Thomas is pulling strings in secret. He is very open about his motives and has acted in a brazen way. Apparently Hope sees nothing wrong with it since she is not drawing strict boundaries. She should also have enough wits about her to understand that even if Caroline wished for something (as implausible as it is), it is not a realistic or fair request. You cannot live your life by someone else's directions.
It also doesn't help that she hasn't told her husband how far Thomas has already gone in his pursuit. She is making it sound like something innocent when it is not.

Hope can’t grow up...she acts childish ...she really needs help..

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by hopeyougogirl, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 11:47AM (97 days ago) @ Curiosity12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.


By the time Steffy returns, Lope will have broken up. I would call it "worse". I would also say that Hope isn't a helpless child and should be able to defend herself from blatant manipulations. It's not like Thomas is pulling strings in secret. He is very open about his motives and has acted in a brazen way. Apparently Hope sees nothing wrong with it since she is not drawing strict boundaries. She should also have enough wits about her to understand that even if Caroline wished for something (as implausible as it is), it is not a realistic or fair request. You cannot live your life by someone else's directions.
It also doesn't help that she hasn't told her husband how far Thomas has already gone in his pursuit. She is making it sound like something innocent when it is not.

I agree with SOME of your post but not fully. Thomas DID pull strings in secret..Hope still doesn't know anything about the fake drawing or the nanny's video or Steffy's photo..these are still manipulations on Thomas' part that he never fessed up!

Not to mention, Hope is still very vulnerable..still full of guilt and grief..she isn't thinking in total clarity. And creepy predator is taking full advantage of her vulnerability by using his own son to a maximum capacity. It's truly disgusting!

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Sailor'sMom2, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:13AM (97 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Disagree. Lope were actually making progress and even made love before Liam went to Paris..that's the opposite of worse. And if creepy Thomas didn't lie about everything including fake drawing, stupid video and photo, using his own son, the nanny, Caroline's fake "wish for mommy Hope" etc etc. to manipulate and come between Lope..Lope would have been just fine.

Exactly

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Drangonfly, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:25PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool

Nah. I think Hope and Liam are actually doing better. She told Thomas in no uncertain terms that her loyalty is to her husband. If something else happens it's going to be because Thomas pulls out all the stops and, like Annika said, does something even more devious.

I don't think Hope not telling Liam about the kiss and proposal is being played out as her "keeping secrets". The show isn't focusing on that at all, in contrast to when Bill kissed Brooke and it was an issue for Ridge and there were several references to it.

I like the idea of a Steffy/Flo rivalry. That would be interesting...and something different for a change. :cool

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Mariposaa, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:38PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool

Hope is defending Thomas? And the kiss and the proposal seems like not a big issue to them as Hope told Thomas where her loyalty lies. They didn't really big up those things.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Steamfan339 ⌂ @, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:43PM (97 days ago) @ Mariposaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Hope is defending Thomas?

When Liam started bashing Thomas, she told him he HAS to be understanding of him. When he demanded she stays away from him, she didn't answer. When he started worrying about Douglas, Hope immediately shut him down and told him he is a good father. When he planted the kiss on her, she told him he doesn't have to apologize and she is moved by his gesture. She was also defending him to Flo, telling her the "history" they share. When Thomas told her they used to be in love, she stood in front of him and said nothing. And now she isn't reporting his inappropriate behavior to Liam, I think he has a right to know about the proposal, but she is willingly keeping him in the dark. If she really feels nothing for him and thinks he is nuts and out of his mind, she sure has a strange way to show it.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by JFK, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 11:41PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Hope is defending Thomas?


When Liam started bashing Thomas, she told him he HAS to be understanding of him. When he demanded she stays away from him, she didn't answer. When he started worrying about Douglas, Hope immediately shut him down and told him he is a good father. When he planted the kiss on her, she told him he doesn't have to apologize and she is moved by his gesture. She was also defending him to Flo, telling her the "history" they share. When Thomas told her they used to be in love, she stood in front of him and said nothing. And now she isn't reporting his inappropriate behavior to Liam, I think he has a right to know about the proposal, but she is willingly keeping him in the dark. If she really feels nothing for him and thinks he is nuts and out of his mind, she sure has a strange way to show it.

:cool

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Mariposaa, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:17AM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool


Hope is defending Thomas?


When Liam started bashing Thomas, she told him he HAS to be understanding of him. When he demanded she stays away from him, she didn't answer. When he started worrying about Douglas, Hope immediately shut him down and told him he is a good father. When he planted the kiss on her, she told him he doesn't have to apologize and she is moved by his gesture. She was also defending him to Flo, telling her the "history" they share. When Thomas told her they used to be in love, she stood in front of him and said nothing. And now she isn't reporting his inappropriate behavior to Liam, I think he has a right to know about the proposal, but she is willingly keeping him in the dark. If she really feels nothing for him and thinks he is nuts and out of his mind, she sure has a strange way to show it.

I understand your view :)

Maybe Hope said the first line because she thinks Thomas is out of his mind and grieving? I don't even know.

Hope told him she was touched not by the kiss, obviously by his words but was she ready to jump in bed afterwards because she was moved by a few words of affection? Afterwards, she looked appalled by his actions. You people tend to over exaggerate on things Hope or Steffy does. The women are flawed and stupid, not perfect. And I do agree that Hope should tell Liam about the proposal but I think he doesn't need to know because he already knows Thomas's plot in mind. So if he knows Tom wants his wife, it's obvious Liam might just use his upstairs, don't you think?

I'm not defending Hope blindly, but I am also taking into count, not only blaming her grief for her actions. But I know she's grieving and still broken inside. I agree she is acting foolishly. I agree she should be tough on Thomas after his behavior. He's being a predator and anything could happen. I agree that she should forthwith tell Liam what happen,,even if he has the idea. But I do not blame her for Thomas's actions neither did I see her kiss Thomas back as people say. Thomas alone should be blamed for his actions.

Hopefully Hope will confide in her husband and the writers should pick up the slack from the poor writing.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by q, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:57PM (97 days ago) @ Steamfan339

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


I think it's ironical that before Steffy left in March, in her last scene with Hope and Lian, she said she was leaving town to give them some space, so they can work on their marriage. She told them they needed time alone. And she said when she gets back, she wanted to see them happily married, stronger and maybe expecting another baby.

Result, she comes home and things are WORSE than when she left. Their marriage is only hanging by a thread, Hope has been trying to gift him the whole time Steffy was in Paris. They only had sex once and she doesn't want to get pregnant again. She has spent more time with Thomas and Douglas than she did with her husband. She is keeping dirty secrets from him (the kiss and the proposal) and defending Thomas against her own husband. Steffy is in for a lot of surprises. If wonder how she'll react when she realizes Hope is suppodedly the love of Thomas' life.

Not to mention Flo. Now she is a Logan. Steffy adopted Hope's grandcousin. And the mother of her baby is now working at Forrester and living in her grandfather's house. What a mess :drunk
I foresee a Flo/Steffy rivalry. I don't see how they can get along, under those circumstances.

Regarding Thomas, I've been reading such awful spoilers about him, since he got back. How evil, monstruous and criminal he is supposed to be... Sheila and Quinn were supposed to be saints, next to him. :drunk All kind of bad stuff, even that he would get Hope drunk and rape her, or kidnap her so he can have her for himself. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't see him blackmailing Hope, drugging her or making agressive overtures towards her. I don't see him locking his rival in a cabin or texting him with Hope's phone. When/if he does this, I'll say he is a horrible person. Until now, he is only "bad"... as bad as all the people who tried to break up marriages. All he has done is expressing his opinion about the whole situation and making his feelings for Hope clear (and drawing a fake picture of course) And Hope defending him and keeping secrets from her husband. Maybe he will get more maniacal and commit crimes, I haven't read the script in advance. But I won't bash him for things that haven't even happened yet. Let's see how things will play out, but I give Hope the credit if she is the one who decides her marriage is over. No one is forcing her to gift Liam, ignore his wishes and keep secrets from him. She knows what Thomas wants, he made that crysal clear and she can put a stop to his "manipulations" if she wants to. Will she, or will she continue to side with him? She is the victim of Reese and Flo, but when it comes to her marriage potentially ending, she is no victim at all IMO.

Thanks for the link. I'm a bit tired of Hope and this baby swap, but I have been impressed with AN and her acting in this big storyline. Can't wait to see what's coming next. :cool

I haven't seen her spend more time with Thomas than Liam. She spends time with Douglas. Thomas lives in a fantasy world. He is seeing things that are not happening. He's nuts and a little dangerous.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Bold_Team70, Australia, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:30PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Happy Steffy is coming back. :wink
But Hope should not trust her. At first she will be shocked. But I fear she will agree with her brother and motherm, eventually.
i want her to find out her daughter is Beth. And she needs to move on. I do not want to see Steffy and Hope in the same storyline. She has blown too many chances.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by tercor123 @, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 10:41PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

if steffy is as supportive as hope was she better watch out or steffy will end up knocked up by liam just like she was

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by JFK, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 11:48PM (97 days ago) @ tercor123

if steffy is as supportive as hope was she better watch out or steffy will end up knocked up by liam just like she was

Steffy already has two infants. She unlike Hope knows about birth control. It won't happen.

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Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Steffyfanatic, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 11:45PM (97 days ago) @ Drangonfly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.

Sounds boring. Can we get an explosion,, earthquake, sharknado, a forbidden romance or something exciting?. Geez! Do something to put some excitement back into this show. What a drag. If I was depressed, I’d be even more depressed after watching this show.

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Bill to Steffy: You're a grand prize. You're a queen. The total package. Brains, beauty, warmth, heart. I've always known that about you. Don't you ever doubt how extraordinary you are.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Curiosity12, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 3:40AM (97 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


Sounds boring. Can we get an explosion,, earthquake, sharknado, a forbidden romance or something exciting?. Geez! Do something to put some excitement back into this show. What a drag. If I was depressed, I’d be even more depressed after watching this show.

This is Bell's idea of riveting May sweeps story. Get on board or change the channel, he doesn't care. :lol

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Steffyfanatic, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:00AM (97 days ago) @ Curiosity12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


Sounds boring. Can we get an explosion,, earthquake, sharknado, a forbidden romance or something exciting?. Geez! Do something to put some excitement back into this show. What a drag. If I was depressed, I’d be even more depressed after watching this show.


This is Bell's idea of riveting May sweeps story. Get on board or change the channel, he doesn't care. :lol

He sure doesn’t care!

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[image]

Bill to Steffy: You're a grand prize. You're a queen. The total package. Brains, beauty, warmth, heart. I've always known that about you. Don't you ever doubt how extraordinary you are.

Annika gave an interview at the Emmys *Spoilerish*

by Ritz @, Thursday, May 16, 2019, 8:53AM (97 days ago) @ Steffyfanatic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYHdp2XuR0&feature=youtu.be

She says Steffy is going to be supportive of Hope when she gets back.

She says Thomas's scheming is going to get even more maniacal.


Sounds boring. Can we get an explosion,, earthquake, sharknado, a forbidden romance or something exciting?. Geez! Do something to put some excitement back into this show. What a drag. If I was depressed, I’d be even more depressed after watching this show.

I totally agree, SF. It is so boring.

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