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Even if Beth isn't alive... (General Discussion)

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:27AM (166 days ago)

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:34AM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.

I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by wow, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:37AM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.

That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by mglass, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:40AM (166 days ago) @ wow

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans

BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:51AM (166 days ago) @ mglass

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -

And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:55AM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.

probably an annulment

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:56AM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment

Based on...?

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:01PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?

nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:04PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.

The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:10PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.


The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.

cheating is cause for a divorce with fault.

legal reasons for an annulment are:
- Blood Relation
- Bigamy
- Underage
- Fraud
- Incurable Physical Incapacity
- Unsound Mind
- Force

I get it tough, annulments are clean and fast and help the plot move faster along than a divorce but it's still kind of ridiculous imo.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:13PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.


The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.


cheating is cause for a divorce with fault.

legal reasons for an annulment are:
- Blood Relation
- Bigamy
- Underage
- Fraud
- Incurable Physical Incapacity
- Unsound Mind
- Force

I get it tough, annulments are clean and fast and help the plot move faster along than a divorce but it's still kind of ridiculous imo.

As are most plot points on soaps. :-D ;-)

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:41PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.

I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.


The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.


cheating is cause for a divorce with fault.

legal reasons for an annulment are:
- Blood Relation
- Bigamy
- Underage
- Fraud
- Incurable Physical Incapacity
- Unsound Mind
- Force

I get it tough, annulments are clean and fast and help the plot move faster along than a divorce but it's still kind of ridiculous imo.


As are most plot points on soaps. :-D ;-)

Agreed! :tv1

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by mglass, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:51PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.


The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.


cheating is cause for a divorce with fault.

legal reasons for an annulment are:
- Blood Relation
- Bigamy
- Underage
- Fraud
- Incurable Physical Incapacity
- Unsound Mind
- Force

I get it tough, annulments are clean and fast and help the plot move faster along than a divorce but it's still kind of ridiculous imo.

it is ridiculous - because even though Steffy did something AWFUL, they still married because they loved each other - it WAS a real marriage - and they should have gotten a divorce not an annullment because of Kelly - just my opinion!

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by IndyGirl, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:18PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.


probably an annulment


Based on...?


nothing. as usual.
Steam had 2 marriages annulled without a proper legal reason.


The first one maybe. I think with that one she did Liam a favor by agreeing to the annulment. But this last one, he wanted an annulment because of Steffy's betrayal with his father.

And in the real world neither would be grounds for a annulment . He would have to file for a divorce .

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by mglass, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:49PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


BUt I think it is very logical to think that Hope will have a really tough time watching Liam with Kelly and Steffy or maybe even bonding or spending time with Kelly while she grieves -


And that would be a natural reaction for her to have. But it doesn't mean it will make them get a divorce.

sure - maybe - we do not know - but I just think they will hit some rocky patches -

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by PatriotGirl @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:40AM (166 days ago) @ wow

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans

Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by harper1, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:05PM (166 days ago) @ PatriotGirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.

Bill said yesterday, and I think he's said it a couple times, that Lope's love is strong and they'll make it through this. Bad sign for Lope. :lol

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by PatriotGirl @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:08PM (166 days ago) @ harper1

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Bill said yesterday, and I think he's said it a couple times, that Lope's love is strong and they'll make it through this. Bad sign for Lope. :lol

Yep, it's like the kiss of death.:rofl

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by BabyKelly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 4:22PM (166 days ago) @ PatriotGirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Bill said yesterday, and I think he's said it a couple times, that Lope's love is strong and they'll make it through this. Bad sign for Lope. :lol


Yep, it's like the kiss of death.:rofl

Maybe she will cross the Line with Wyatt. The spoiler says they will remember their past next week. Maybe it means nothing, maybe it does. Everyone expects Liam will cheat with Steffy, but maybe Hope will do it first, and give him the excuse he needs to dump her.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 4:27PM (166 days ago) @ BabyKelly

Liam won’t cheat for a couple of months ..then bell will
Write him option c

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by BabyKelly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 4:32PM (166 days ago) @ Barbybo

Liam won’t cheat for a couple of months ..then bell will
Write him option c

I hope Hope cheats on him with Wyatt again, so he can dump her nasty without feeling guilty. If Steffy doesnt't take him back, I will welcome an option C for Liam.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by JFK, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 10:00PM (166 days ago) @ PatriotGirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Bill said yesterday, and I think he's said it a couple times, that Lope's love is strong and they'll make it through this. Bad sign for Lope. :lol


Yep, it's like the kiss of death.:rofl

:-D

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Liam to Steffy: "You are more essential to me than my own name. When has it even been over between us?"

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by hopeyougogirl, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:05PM (166 days ago) @ PatriotGirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.

Except the comment "i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope". We don't know what the end result will be..since Bell said things would become complicated between these three..yes, there will be conflict and drama for sure. But we don't know for certain whether Lope will overcome or not. :whistle

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by PatriotGirl @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:15PM (166 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Except the comment "i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope". We don't know what the end result will be..since Bell said thing would become complicated between these three..yes, there will be conflict and drama for sure. But we don't know for certain whether Lope will overcome or not. :whistle

I am aware that the comment is the posters opinion but the other part was stated by Bell. The part in red is what I was referring to when I said it was in the 2019 preview.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:29PM (166 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Except the comment "i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope". We don't know what the end result will be..since Bell said things would become complicated between these three..yes, there will be conflict and drama for sure. But we don't know for certain whether Lope will overcome or not. :whistle

All i meant was that lope won't be happy as the spoiler suggestes. Maybe they'll stay together, maybe they don't. We'll see

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by hopeyougogirl, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 3:41PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


Nope, it's in the 2019 preview per Brad Bell.


Except the comment "i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope". We don't know what the end result will be..since Bell said things would become complicated between these three..yes, there will be conflict and drama for sure. But we don't know for certain whether Lope will overcome or not. :whistle


All i meant was that lope won't be happy as the spoiler suggestes. Maybe they'll stay together, maybe they don't. We'll see

Couples have disagreements..it’s part of life. And since we don’t know exactly what kind of “conflict” Lope may be having, it doesn’t automatically mean they are unhappy. IMO.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 4:28PM (166 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

Bell don’t do happy..

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by muppetfish @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:48AM (166 days ago) @ wow

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans

it's a spoiler from the 2019 preview, posted here in december.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by JFK, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 9:24PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.


That is not a Spoiler. It's a made up rumor from Steffy fans


it's a spoiler from the 2019 preview, posted here in december.

Yep!

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Liam to Steffy: "You are more essential to me than my own name. When has it even been over between us?"

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:50AM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.

I believe he meant those words when he said them to Steffy. He was married to her. He made a commitment. He did love her. But I wouldn't say he begged. He spoke to her for about 5 minutes before he ran out, flew back to LA, and proposed to Hope.

You really can't even say he "went after" Steffy in Paris. He had to be talked into it by Bill. And he said he was going there because he needed to "get answers".

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by IW, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:21PM (166 days ago) @ muppetfish

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I'd take it wih a grain of salt. When he went after Steffy in Europe he begged her to come home; said they could adopt , that there are other ways to be a family, etc etc. empty words, as usual.

Spoilers said lope would become complicated and that in turn would create conflict between steffy and Hope. so i'm guessing the happily married thing is not gonna happen for lope.

He also told Bill he was considering leaving Steffy and before she learnt she was sterile. And when Steffy announced she was leaving, he did nothing to hold her back. In fact, he was already chasing Hope in Big Bear and the 4th of July party, that's when she met Wyatt. He didn't beg Steffy for another chance but begged her to sign the annulment papers so he could marry Hope as soon as possible. I doubt we are ever going to see that now, if Hope dumps him. Anyway, why would it matter? Steffy is done with Liam permanently, she isn't an option so who/what Liam wants shouldn't matter. Isn't it what she said?

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by MegsMom, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:46AM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.

I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 11:54AM (166 days ago) @ MegsMom

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.

I don't know what Bell has in store for Liam, but I have to say that I have been very, very happy with the writing for him lately.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by hopeyougogirl, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:54PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.


I don't know what Bell has in store for Liam, but I have to say that I have been very, very happy with the writing for him lately.

Me too. Liam has not been shown waffling or pining for Steffy..he has NO Leffy flashbacks either even though Steffy still has her shrine up on the wall as a constant reminder..still no Leffy flashbacks from Liam. Lol. In fact, he CHOSE Hope right in front of Steffy recently when Hope gave him an out.

I know Bell doesn't do HEA, but for now, Liam seems to have changed for the better. So in this particular s/l, I don't think Liam will immediately run to be a family with Kelly and Steffy. Of course, eventually DTR..something else will happen.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:00PM (166 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.


I don't know what Bell has in store for Liam, but I have to say that I have been very, very happy with the writing for him lately.


Me too. Liam has not been shown waffling or pining for Steffy..he has NO Leffy flashbacks either even though Steffy still has her shrine up on the wall as a constant reminder..still no Leffy flashbacks from Liam. Lol. In fact, he CHOSE Hope right in front of Steffy recently when Hope gave him an out.

I know Bell doesn't do HEA, but for now, Liam seems to have changed for the better. So in this particular s/l, I don't think Liam will immediately run to be a family with Kelly and Steffy. Of course, eventually DTR..something else will happen.

:cool

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Curiosity12, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 3:18PM (166 days ago) @ MegsMom

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.

Re your last sentence, that is Liam's MO though. I would have to reevaluate my whole opinion of Liam if he stays by Hope's side throughout this story and does not even consider waffling. However, I wouldn't hold my breath. I see Hope pushing him away to be with his daughter and Liam "reluctantly" going along with it. He wouldn't dump Hope as he considers himself too moral to do this but if Hope lets him go, he will oblige.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by cranberryboy, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 9:06PM (166 days ago) @ MegsMom

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


I hope you're right. Not because I'm a big Lope fan, but because it won't be a return to the flip flopping Liam Spencer of old. I can understand Hope and Liam having issues because of what's happened. Such a tragedy can easily tear the fabric of a marriage to shreds if the couple isn't willing to work together to overcome it. I'd much rather watch Liam and Hope fight to stay together than the old "things are rocky with Hope, so I'll just slide on over to Steffy" routine.

I want Liam and Steffy to be together, but not NOW. Hope needs Liam now and they need to be together to heal from their loss. If they have another baby too, so be it.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by fasbmaster, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 12:23PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Bell shifts gears very quickly when he's pushing forward a plot so what's happening NOW can change pretty swiftly.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:02PM (166 days ago) @ fasbmaster

Bell shifts gears very quickly when he's pushing forward a plot so what's happening NOW can change pretty swiftly.

It sure can. That's why I'm enjoying this Lope story while I can.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Brenda3, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:22PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.

Yes and the major reason for that is Steffy is not Hope. She isn't using the death of a child as a means to get back Liam. She isn't going to be in his face telling how it was meant to be and he owes to them to be with his family. You know all the things that Hope did as soon as Steffy lost her child.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:38PM (166 days ago) @ Brenda3

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


Yes and the major reason for that is Steffy is not Hope. She isn't using the death of a child as a means to get back Liam. She isn't going to be in his face telling how it was meant to be and he owes to them to be with his family. You know all the things that Hope did as soon as Steffy lost her child.

You know, Hope gets a lot of criticism for that, and I won't begrudge Steffy fans their right to hold it against her. But did you ever ask yourself why Liam even went to see Hope that day? I mean, his wife was lying in a hospital bed after having JUST lost their baby and what does he do? He goes to see Hope. And in that conversation he told Hope that he was glad to have her.

Then just a short time later he told his Dad that he was thinking of leaving Steffy. For Hope. Why? According to what he told Bill, it was because Hope was his first love and she was still in his heart.

I think the reason Steffy is not thinking about pursuing Liam now and won't be in the near future is because she knows that Liam is where he wants to be. It's where he would have been years ago, if Steffy hadn't ever gotten involved.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Brenda3, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:48PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


Yes and the major reason for that is Steffy is not Hope. She isn't using the death of a child as a means to get back Liam. She isn't going to be in his face telling how it was meant to be and he owes to them to be with his family. You know all the things that Hope did as soon as Steffy lost her child.


You know, Hope gets a lot of criticism for that, and I won't begrudge Steffy fans their right to hold it against her. But did you ever ask yourself why Liam even went to see Hope that day? I mean, his wife was lying in a hospital bed after having JUST lost their baby and what does he do? He goes to see Hope. And in that conversation he told Hope that he was glad to have her.

Then just a short time later he told his Dad that he was thinking of leaving Steffy. For Hope. Why? According to what he told Bill, it was because Hope was his first love and she was still in his heart.

I think the reason Steffy is not thinking about pursuing Liam now and won't be in the near future is because she knows that Liam is where he wants to be. It's where he would have been years ago, if Steffy hadn't ever gotten involved.

Steffy isn't Hope that is why she isn't going after Liam just because his baby died. It is just like last time Steffy and Liam would have worked out their problems, actually they did. It was Hope who continued to interfere just like she did when the baby died. Instead of Hope being there for them, she had an agenda as usual. What Hope wants, Hope expects to get no matter if she steps on a dead baby to get to Liam. I disagree with where Liam would have been, Liam sees Hope as all goodness which is not true. He thinks of her as that teenager and she has changed to a different person. It wouldn't take much for Liam to waffle. A pretty girl in distress, Steffy pulling a Hope and telling him how much he is needed at home and how it is hurting Kelly to not be with her dad. It isn't like Liam doesn't love Steffy, he does. He evens tells Hope that. Liam is a love the one you are with and want the other one kind of guy and like Hope has said they are interchangable to him.

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 2:10PM (166 days ago) @ Brenda3

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


Yes and the major reason for that is Steffy is not Hope. She isn't using the death of a child as a means to get back Liam. She isn't going to be in his face telling how it was meant to be and he owes to them to be with his family. You know all the things that Hope did as soon as Steffy lost her child.


You know, Hope gets a lot of criticism for that, and I won't begrudge Steffy fans their right to hold it against her. But did you ever ask yourself why Liam even went to see Hope that day? I mean, his wife was lying in a hospital bed after having JUST lost their baby and what does he do? He goes to see Hope. And in that conversation he told Hope that he was glad to have her.

Then just a short time later he told his Dad that he was thinking of leaving Steffy. For Hope. Why? According to what he told Bill, it was because Hope was his first love and she was still in his heart.

I think the reason Steffy is not thinking about pursuing Liam now and won't be in the near future is because she knows that Liam is where he wants to be. It's where he would have been years ago, if Steffy hadn't ever gotten involved.


Steffy isn't Hope that is why she isn't going after Liam just because his baby died. It is just like last time Steffy and Liam would have worked out their problems, actually they did. It was Hope who continued to interfere just like she did when the baby died. Instead of Hope being there for them, she had an agenda as usual. What Hope wants, Hope expects to get no matter if she steps on a dead baby to get to Liam. I disagree with where Liam would have been, Liam sees Hope as all goodness which is not true. He thinks of her as that teenager and she has changed to a different person. It wouldn't take much for Liam to waffle. A pretty girl in distress, Steffy pulling a Hope and telling him how much he is needed at home and how it is hurting Kelly to not be with her dad. It isn't like Liam doesn't love Steffy, he does. He evens tells Hope that. Liam is a love the one you are with and want the other one kind of guy and like Hope has said they are interchangable to him.

Meh. Hope has never been written as a mean spirited person.

It's hard to say that Liam and Steffy would have worked out their problems. She betrayed him in the worst possible way when she had sex with his father. He told Wyatt that he probably wouldn't ever get that image completely out of his mind and he later said that he was relieved to be out from under the shadow of it all.

And isn't it telling that Liam also left Steffy at home with a newborn and went to Hope's fashion show, even after she asked him not to? And he didn't go home right after it was over either, as we all know.

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by mglass, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 1:57PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

...Liam is not going to leave Hope and go back to Steffy. Not even for Kelly.

Of course, down the road their marriage will end when the writers decide to go in a different direction. Happily married couples are not sustainable because soaps need turmoil in their characters' lives in order to stay on the air. No angst = no drama.

But based on what's happening NOW I don't see it happening. Liam has already mentioned that he and Hope will have another baby. Even when Hope was too sad to talk about that, he insisted to her that they will. He is looking toward their future. Together.


Yes and the major reason for that is Steffy is not Hope. She isn't using the death of a child as a means to get back Liam. She isn't going to be in his face telling how it was meant to be and he owes to them to be with his family. You know all the things that Hope did as soon as Steffy lost her child.


You know, Hope gets a lot of criticism for that, and I won't begrudge Steffy fans their right to hold it against her. But did you ever ask yourself why Liam even went to see Hope that day? I mean, his wife was lying in a hospital bed after having JUST lost their baby and what does he do? He goes to see Hope. And in that conversation he told Hope that he was glad to have her.

Then just a short time later he told his Dad that he was thinking of leaving Steffy. For Hope. Why? According to what he told Bill, it was because Hope was his first love and she was still in his heart.

I think the reason Steffy is not thinking about pursuing Liam now and won't be in the near future is because she knows that Liam is where he wants to be. It's where he would have been years ago, if Steffy hadn't ever gotten involved.

I'm just not sure Liam will ever be committed 100% to either Hope or Steffy -

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 3:12PM (166 days ago) @ mglass

Of course not

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 3:13PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

No happy ending on this show...

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by tercor123 @, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 3:53PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

liam always goes back to steffy. They are the 2 bell wants front and center just like ridge and brooke were

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 4:28PM (166 days ago) @ tercor123

They are the two stars but he’s a moron

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 5:01PM (166 days ago) @ tercor123

liam always goes back to steffy. They are the 2 bell wants front and center just like ridge and brooke were

Hope and Liam got the 8000th episode. I'd call that front and center. I think they'll be together for the next big dramatic story too. The reveal that Beth is alive. Probably for sweeps. :-D

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 5:22PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

What’s special about 8000....it’s just anothe day

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Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Drangonfly, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 5:30PM (166 days ago) @ Barbybo

What’s special about 8000....it’s just anothe day

Really? :whistle

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by Barbybo, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 5:49PM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

Well I don’t get it next 8001

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by JFK, Thursday, January 10, 2019, 9:22PM (166 days ago) @ tercor123

liam always goes back to steffy. They are the 2 bell wants front and center just like ridge and brooke were

:cool

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Liam to Steffy: "You are more essential to me than my own name. When has it even been over between us?"

Even if Beth isn't alive...

by LRDbold&beautiful, Friday, January 11, 2019, 1:38AM (166 days ago) @ Drangonfly

I gave up believe ANYTHING that Liam says about how he feels to Hope or Steffy.. He changes how he feels in a nano second.

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