Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her (General Discussion)

by traditha ⌂, Houston, Texas, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 6:16PM (75 days ago)

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by pspcindy @, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 6:26PM (75 days ago) @ traditha

I consider the sources.

Sally, who goes from man to man or should I say wallet to wallet, is looked down upon for being a cheat and a thief.

Steffy was just jealous of Hope and wanted to hurt her.

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Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by MegsMom, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:02PM (75 days ago) @ traditha

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.

Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by FataMorgana, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:07PM (74 days ago) @ MegsMom

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral

Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.

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Shingeki no Kyojin - 進撃の巨人 - Attack On Titan

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by MegsMom, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:19PM (74 days ago) @ FataMorgana

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral


Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.

Bell's use of the characters lately has me scratching my head. Hope's conversation with Wyatt seemed totally disingenuous considering she hadn't even acknowledged him as her ex-husband or that they'd lost a child together. Wyatt, for whatever reason, never seems to hold any animosity towards the women who abused, used and left him. We've never heard him utter one mean thing about any of them. That's why that shot he gave Hope about getting over being hurt while looking directly at her, was so surprising. It's the most negative thing we've ever heard him say about any relationship. Some of the dialogue that Bell's given Hope has surprised me because it seems out of character for the Hope we've known in the past. However, I suppose it's because she's older and less naïve. :neutral

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by FataMorgana, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:23PM (74 days ago) @ MegsMom

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral


Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.


Bell's use of the characters lately has me scratching my head. Hope's conversation with Wyatt seemed totally disingenuous considering she hadn't even acknowledged him as her ex-husband or that they'd lost a child together. Wyatt, for whatever reason, never seems to hold any animosity towards the women who abused, used and left him. We've never heard him utter one mean thing about any of them. That's why that shot he gave Hope about getting over being hurt while looking directly at her, was so surprising. It's the most negative thing we've ever heard him say about any relationship. Some of the dialogue that Bell's given Hope has surprised me because it seems out of character for the Hope we've known in the past. However, I suppose it's because she's older and less naïve. :neutral

Bold reason is why i did not mind Wyatt saying that to her. It's not Hope's business to rate and to be telling him who to date. But if this is mature Hope, it needs to go.

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Shingeki no Kyojin - 進撃の巨人 - Attack On Titan

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by TeamWivyQueric, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:38PM (74 days ago) @ FataMorgana

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral


Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.


Bell's use of the characters lately has me scratching my head. Hope's conversation with Wyatt seemed totally disingenuous considering she hadn't even acknowledged him as her ex-husband or that they'd lost a child together. Wyatt, for whatever reason, never seems to hold any animosity towards the women who abused, used and left him. We've never heard him utter one mean thing about any of them. That's why that shot he gave Hope about getting over being hurt while looking directly at her, was so surprising. It's the most negative thing we've ever heard him say about any relationship. Some of the dialogue that Bell's given Hope has surprised me because it seems out of character for the Hope we've known in the past. However, I suppose it's because she's older and less naïve. :neutral


Bold reason is why i did not mind Wyatt saying that to her. It's not Hope's business to rate and to be telling him who to date. But if this is mature Hope, it needs to go.

Yes to everything both of you said. Hope's professional concerns about Sally were founded. Her overstepping into Wyatt's relationship with her was not. And remember the sour lemons face Hope made in the background when she found out about Katie and Wyatt's engagement? She acts like Wyatt never existed until he might have genuine feelings for some woman who isn't her. Not attractive, particularly given how she treated him when he was crazy about her after she lost their baby.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by Devilish Angel, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 8:38PM (74 days ago) @ TeamWivyQueric

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral


Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.


Bell's use of the characters lately has me scratching my head. Hope's conversation with Wyatt seemed totally disingenuous considering she hadn't even acknowledged him as her ex-husband or that they'd lost a child together. Wyatt, for whatever reason, never seems to hold any animosity towards the women who abused, used and left him. We've never heard him utter one mean thing about any of them. That's why that shot he gave Hope about getting over being hurt while looking directly at her, was so surprising. It's the most negative thing we've ever heard him say about any relationship. Some of the dialogue that Bell's given Hope has surprised me because it seems out of character for the Hope we've known in the past. However, I suppose it's because she's older and less naïve. :neutral


Bold reason is why i did not mind Wyatt saying that to her. It's not Hope's business to rate and to be telling him who to date. But if this is mature Hope, it needs to go.


Yes to everything both of you said. Hope's professional concerns about Sally were founded. Her overstepping into Wyatt's relationship with her was not. And remember the sour lemons face Hope made in the background when she found out about Katie and Wyatt's engagement? She acts like Wyatt never existed until he might have genuine feelings for some woman who isn't her. Not attractive, particularly given how she treated him when he was crazy about her after she lost their baby.

i think its normal to feel a lil jealous over an ex which is how i see this, but Hopes face was nothing compared to mine when i read about wyatt and katie, it was just not ok

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Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by traditha ⌂, Houston, Texas, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 11:18PM (74 days ago) @ MegsMom

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.


Sally doesn't know Hope outside of what she knows business-wise. I'm not sure she even knows any details of Wyatt's marriage to Hope. Given how Hope's treated her, I'm not surprised that Sally would say something like that. To Sally, Hope is a rich, spoiled, pampered princess who's never had to face adversities like not having to worry where her next meal will come from or where she's going to sleep. And to be fair, the only thing Hope knows about Sally is the obvious theft of a couple of years ago. She doesn't know Sally as a person and her animosity stems more from Sally's relationship with Liam than what happened back then. In reality, Steffy has far more reason to be antagonistic towards Sally than Hope does. :neutral


Exactly. Hope is officially on my ish list for making those dumb comments.
Also her conversation with Wyatt.. ugh. Hope should be glad Wyatt has allot of patience with her. I still have no clue why her relationship history needed to be mentioned. She sounded petty.


Bell's use of the characters lately has me scratching my head. Hope's conversation with Wyatt seemed totally disingenuous considering she hadn't even acknowledged him as her ex-husband or that they'd lost a child together. Wyatt, for whatever reason, never seems to hold any animosity towards the women who abused, used and left him. We've never heard him utter one mean thing about any of them. That's why that shot he gave Hope about getting over being hurt while looking directly at her, was so surprising. It's the most negative thing we've ever heard him say about any relationship. Some of the dialogue that Bell's given Hope has surprised me because it seems out of character for the Hope we've known in the past. However, I suppose it's because she's older and less naïve. :neutral

Hope is pregnant remember, and pregnant women are usually xitchy and are known to have mood swings.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by graniepanies, Delaware, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 7:36PM (74 days ago) @ traditha

The hate comes from JEALOUSY

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Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by JayCee_II, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 8:02PM (74 days ago) @ graniepanies

The hate comes from JEALOUSY

:cool
Exactly. Jealousy and insecurity.

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It's just soap...

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by Devilish Angel, Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 8:31PM (74 days ago) @ traditha

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.

sally doesnt know that, she is wrong, but she doesnt know it

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Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by Curiosity12, Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:54AM (74 days ago) @ traditha

I think Hope does occasionally come off as a bit stand offish but that doesn't mean she is a bad person. Sally's whining gets on my nerves though- the woe is me act is getting old and she should focus more on working hard and proving her worth than complaining about people who don't like her. If I were her, I would be just grateful FC hired me and I would keep my head down and let my work speak for itself. Once you prove your worth, then you are in a better position to make demands.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by MegsMom, Friday, July 13, 2018, 9:36AM (73 days ago) @ Curiosity12

I think Hope does occasionally come off as a bit stand offish but that doesn't mean she is a bad person. Sally's whining gets on my nerves though- the woe is me act is getting old and she should focus more on working hard and proving her worth than complaining about people who don't like her. If I were her, I would be just grateful FC hired me and I would keep my head down and let my work speak for itself. Once you prove your worth, then you are in a better position to make demands.

Very true! However, given what Sally's endured at Bill's hands, getting on with it and working hard to prove her worth, may be easier said than done. I'd like Sally to do a bit less whining, she's a stronger person than that. And that's what Wyatt sees. However, she was working hard and doing her best, only to be knocked back through no fault of her own. Someone can only be knocked back just so often before it all seems to become too much. I think that's why Wyatt will be good for her. He's a bit of a cheerleader and won't allow her to wallow and might be the one to give her a swift kick in the pants to get her going again. As for Hope, she's not a bad person, but she's as flawed as everyone else. I have to admit that it makes me chuckle when Hope is criticized for being a "goodie two shoes", but then criticized again for getting snarky and standing up for herself. She can't win. Sort of like Wyatt. He's slammed if he does and slammed if he doesn't. :neutral

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by soonerfan, Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:57AM (74 days ago) @ traditha

Why does nearly everyone on this show hate this poor girl? They lie like Sally did today saying Hope doesn't know what
It feels like to be looked down upon. Seriously? She's been called the stain, a bxstard child, told by Steffy you don't have
A dad! , cake dropped on her for spite etc etc.
Yes Hope acts optimistic but that doesn't mean it's because no one has ever looked down upon her. She just chooses
To ignore it and be optimistic like her mom.

I hate that the spoiled brats and those who arent spoiled brats lie and say that about her.

The only ones that hate her are Ridge, Steffy, and Pam. And they aren't important enough to matter.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by GracieGirl, Thursday, July 12, 2018, 4:58PM (74 days ago) @ traditha

I find that there are fans who dislike Hope because they think the show presents her as perfect. I don’t see how anyone can hate Hope. Hope is a nice young woman and there are plenty of them in the world. She is imperfect, but she has a good heart and is not out to intentionally hurt people. People see Hope as a goody two shoes who won’t get down and dirty to fight for a man. What’s wrong with that? I’m tired of people real fans or characters picking on the Hope character.

Poor Hope. Everybody seems to hate her

by traditha ⌂, Houston, Texas, Friday, July 13, 2018, 5:21AM (73 days ago) @ GracieGirl

I find that there are fans who dislike Hope because they think the show presents her as perfect. I don’t see how anyone can hate Hope. Hope is a nice young woman and there are plenty of them in the world. She is imperfect, but she has a good heart and is not out to intentionally hurt people. People see Hope as a goody two shoes who won’t get down and dirty to fight for a man. What’s wrong with that? I’m tired of people real fans or characters picking on the Hope character.

Same here.:cool

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