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*SPOILER* - According to TV Watercooler... (Spoilers)

kizilay, 11/23/2020, 12:13AM(58 days ago) @churro79

Thomas wanted to bring the doll back to FC. Dimwit Hope is the one who told him to keep it, and she insisted. She didn't blink when Liam warned her about the doll. If he mistakes her with the doll, that's just a direct consequence of her actions. She will deserve everything she gets. I have zero sympathy for that obnoxious twit.


The only reason she told Thomas to keep the doll was because Thomas claimed that the doll gives him inspiration to work on his designs. And there's no way Hope or anyone else would have thought that Thomas would kiss a doll lol. Nobody on the show knows that Thomas has mental illness and hit his head twice now..none of them knows.


If Hope kept Thomas from seeing Douglas, refused to work with him, or didn't give him any credit for working on himself, even though he appears to be, she would be called heartless. The only thing she's guilty of is being too nice, which has always been the case where the Forrester kids are concerned. Even after all the horrible things they did to her, she's still nice to them. :neutral


Hope is working with Thomas because his designs benefit her line. Nothing to do with being nice. It's a business decision.

As for letting him see Douglas, Hope shouldn't even be controlling on when Thomas gets to see Douglas in the first place. She got that role through manipulations.

As for Steffy, she is 'nice' to her because she has Liam. I saw her true nasty colours when Steffy was with Liam.

She is not nice to Liam either. She disrespects him every time she spends time with Thomas outside of working hours.


She doesn't have to make him a designer for her line, though. Steffy even commented on how happy she was that Hope gave him a chance. Hope wants Thomas to be better so he can be a better father to Douglas.

Thomas wants Hope to be Douglas's mother. No one, not even anyone in the Forrester family is unhappy that Hope and Liam are raising Douglas.

Hope isn't disrespecting Liam. She's co-parenting Douglas with Thomas, just like Liam is co-parenting Kelly with Steffy.


But she has because the designs benefit her line.

Thomas didn't even want Hope to be Douglas's mother without being married. It looks like it still bothers him because he still wants Hope.

You keep forgetting that Ridge was unhappy with Hope getting custody of Douglas. He tried when he asked Carter whether it can be fixed. When Thomas was engaged to Zoe, Ridge talked about the issue. After the failed Zomas wedding, Ridge didn't talk about it much because of the Ridge-Shauna-Quinn-Brooke storyline.

Steffy raised the issue when she was under the influence of drugs a couple of months ago. And they were all right as it is causing problems. Even Douglas is missing his daddy and wants to live with him! The Forresters can't do anything about it anyway because it's too late.

She is disrespecting Liam because she defends Thomas and ignores all the red flags about Thomas. She disrespected Liam on Friday's episode when she was supposed to just drop off Douglas but she stayed and looks like she will have dinner with Thomas and Douglas in upcoming episodes.

Yes, this. The issue isn't much Hope staying at Thomas' and having dinner with him, it's more the fact that she lied to Liam about it. She told him she was dropping off Douglas, that's it. Liam on the other hand always tells Hope when he spends time at Steffy's. A while ago, he told her it was daddy time for him and Kelly and last week, he asked her if he could stay and have a party with them. He isn't keeping his visits secrets. Hope also didn't tell him she intended to rehire Thomas. She knew how Liam felt about it, but she still rehired him anyway, and without talking to him. Just like when she adopted Douglas. She made another decision with Thomas behind his back and only told him the truth after the decision was made.

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