# So the ultimatum was pointless (General Discussion)

Why does she always need Hopes leftovers? No pride and no better than her brother. Yuck

Steffy claimed she doesnâ€™t want to be like her mother..yet, she is exactly like her pathetic mother groveling and never moved on.

She has made more efforts these last 2 years than her mother, Brooke and Hope in their entire life. She gifted Liam to Hope, removed herself, supported their marriage and stayed away for 2 years. She kissed a free Liam, after HE came to her house and he kissed her back. I don't see her grovelling.

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**AmazingHope**, 01-13-2020, 8:43PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**Donnaandi**, 01-13-2020, 8:51PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**Shimster**, 01-13-2020, 8:53PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**ceelo**, 01-14-2020, 6:27AM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
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**hopeyougogirl**, 01-13-2020, 8:58PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**BabyKelly**, 01-15-2020, 11:24AM

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**Bold_Team70**, 01-13-2020, 8:56PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**AmazingHope**, 01-13-2020, 9:14PM - So the ultimatum was pointless -
**amerime**, 01-13-2020, 9:26PM

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**MegsMom**, 01-13-2020, 8:57PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**cranberryboy**, 01-13-2020, 8:59PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**MegsMom**, 01-13-2020, 9:05PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**hopeyougogirl**, 01-13-2020, 9:55PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**mglass**, 01-13-2020, 9:57PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**hopeyougogirl**, 01-13-2020, 10:03PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**AmazingHope**, 01-13-2020, 11:38PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**MsBold**, 01-14-2020, 6:23AM

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**mglass**, 01-14-2020, 3:10PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**hopeyougogirl**, 01-14-2020, 3:31PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**mglass**, 01-14-2020, 6:56PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**hopeyougogirl**, 01-15-2020, 11:31AM

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**Tiqui1999**, 01-14-2020, 3:29PM

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**AmazingHope**, 01-13-2020, 11:35PM - So the ultimatum was pointless -
**MsBold**, 01-14-2020, 6:26AM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**MegsMom**, 01-14-2020, 7:25AM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**Pookie Bear**, 01-14-2020, 8:11AM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**ShirleyB#1**, 01-14-2020, 8:16AM

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**hopeyougogirl**, 01-14-2020, 3:27PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**MsBold**, 01-14-2020, 7:25PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**hopeyougogirl**, 01-15-2020, 11:29AM

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**Tiqui1999**, 01-14-2020, 3:26PM

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**GracieGirl**, 01-13-2020, 10:27PM

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**Barbybo**, 01-13-2020, 10:04PM - So the ultimatum was pointless -
**SonOfMan**, 01-13-2020, 10:41PM - So the ultimatum was pointless -
**CaptainHook**, 01-13-2020, 11:10PM- So the ultimatum was pointless -
**AmazingHope**, 01-13-2020, 11:48PM

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